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PostPosted: April 8th, 2013, 7:36 pm 
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Looks like this years trip will be from Kasba Lake to Ennadai Lake and up either the Nowleye River to Nowleye Lake or the Kazan River to Angikuni L. Anybody have experience traveling the Nowleye River? How might it compare to the Kazan if anyone has knowledge of both? PakBoat okay or would you take a conventional canoe? Both are available. Looks less traveled to do the Nowleye River and our flight back to Kasba Lodge will be a lot cheaper than going up the Kazan.

Any thoughts appreciated. thanks Mark


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PostPosted: April 8th, 2013, 8:30 pm 
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You might try getting in touch with some people who have posted Nowleye reports:
http://myccr.com/phpbbforum/viewtopic.php?f=125&t=38105

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PostPosted: April 9th, 2013, 12:40 pm 
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I would suggest a pakcanoe should be fine.
Kazan is a big river, Nowleye would be smaller.
Kazan is well known and somewhat well traveled, Nowleye less known and less travelled.
Some info
First, on Ennadai
http://www.nunatsiaqonline.ca/stories/a ... MhB8.email

There is a trip report on nastawgan, aug 1996 v23 n3 sixty days in the land of little sticks
it's in two parts, not sure what part is listed above but both are available online.

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PostPosted: April 9th, 2013, 1:02 pm 
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Paddle Power wrote:
There is a trip report on nastawgan, aug 1996 v23 n3 sixty days in the land of little sticks
it's in two parts, not sure what part is listed above but both are available online.


Part 1
http://news.ourontario.ca/nastawgan/123418/page/2?n=1

Part 2
http://news.ourontario.ca/nastawgan/123420/data?n=2

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PostPosted: April 9th, 2013, 2:10 pm 
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Anybody have experience traveling the Nowleye River? How might it compare to the Kazan if anyone has knowledge of both?

wife and i did the Nowleye by crossing over at northern edge of Ennadai Lake. not much of a river to start, very boney and we just dragged our canoe until enough water for boat. a bit further down lots of Inuit signs.

How might it compare to the Kazan if anyone has knowledge of both? the both have freshwater. one has very little and the other has a whole lot.


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PostPosted: April 9th, 2013, 3:45 pm 
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What a sleuthing job by Paddle Power and Barbara!

Some notes on the authors:
I corresponded with Sara about that trip when she was an undergrad at the University of Toronto; I recall saying that she was doing my dream trip.
She spoke about the trip at the Wilderness and Canoeing Symposium.
She is now Professor in the Department of Earth, Atmospheric and Planetary Science at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology.
http://seagerexoplanets.mit.edu/SeagerCV2012.pdf

Her husband Mike, whom she met on a WCA trip, passed away a few years ago.

In his honour, the Seager family is sponsoring the Michael Wevrick lecture series. At the WCA Wine and Cheese this past fall, Max Finkelstein (Canadian Heritage Rivers) gave the first in the series.

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PostPosted: April 9th, 2013, 9:00 pm 
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David is right, no surprise.
The Kazan has lots of water, even at the outlet of Kasba Lake. It is really rolling at the outlet of Angikuni.

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PostPosted: April 10th, 2013, 12:58 pm 
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Great, Barbara posted the nastawgan links.

Not wishing to sidetrack but Barbara, how did you search the online collection of nastawgan?

For some reason, it never works for me.

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PostPosted: April 10th, 2013, 1:55 pm 
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Paddle Power wrote:
Great, Barbara posted the nastawgan links.

Not wishing to sidetrack but Barbara, how did you search the online collection of nastawgan?

For some reason, it never works for me.


I followed your lead. :D

I'll try to remember how I did it. :oops:

Up there at the top is a tab "WCA".

Hovered over that to let the dropdown menu display.

Clicked on "Nastawgan Journal" in the dropdown menu.

that took me to:

http://www.wildernesscanoe.ca/Nastawgan_Journal

Then I clicked on the link "Nastawgan Archives", which took me to http://news.ourontario.ca/nastawgan/search where I typed in "1996", which I got from your post.

viola:

http://news.ourontario.ca/nastawgan/res ... 1996&st=kw

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PostPosted: April 10th, 2013, 6:44 pm 
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That system drives me nuts.
I published Kazan and Coppermine articles (among others) but I get nothing when I search for Kazan and nothing when I do the same for Coppermine.
As best I know, you are out of luck unless you have a good idea of the year that the article was published.
There's more but I'll lay off.

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PostPosted: April 10th, 2013, 7:41 pm 
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Thanks for the leads folks. Am finding a bit on the internet as well.

Thanks, Mark


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PostPosted: April 10th, 2013, 8:35 pm 
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Allan Jacobs wrote:
That system drives me nuts.
I published Kazan and Coppermine articles (among others) but I get nothing when I search for Kazan and nothing when I do the same for Coppermine.
As best I know, you are out of luck unless you have a good idea of the year that the article was published.
There's more but I'll lay off.


Don't feel bad Allan, the search has never worked for me either.

I go to the index and scroll through the alpha list to find the article and issue info then look up the individual issue. Only works when the main topic of the articles matches the river you are looking for.

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PostPosted: April 10th, 2013, 8:46 pm 
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Mark:
Please let me know of your finds on the Nowleye and other stuff. I'm eager to post more information on that area.
Thanks, Allan

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PostPosted: April 10th, 2013, 9:20 pm 
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if i remember correctly, Farley Mowat wrote of this area in "Lost in the Barrens". i recall a map that included a looping of the Kazan R. to the Nowleye R.


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PostPosted: April 11th, 2013, 8:30 am 
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at this link " http://news.ourontario.ca/nastawgan/123420/page/4?n=2 " i found this "Kamilukuak River". Intriguing, there must be at least two Kamilukuak Rivers. one that starts in the Big Rocky Lake area flows into the Kamilukuak Lake outlets from there and deposits its water into the Dubawnt. This one which flows between Casimir lake and Blue Island Lake. Our travels on the full length of the Nowleye River required that we portage from Lake EnnadaI into the the Nowleye headwaters which consisted of a series of interconnected shallow lakes. The point is that getting to the river required traveling on Ennadi Lake, a very well known lake but not mentioned in the map. i will put up some google maps demonstrating my conundrum. I remember all of this because i wrongly surmised that the Ennadai Lake was a feeder lake to the Nowleye and when we crossed over from the Ennadia L. to the Nowleye R. we were met with an unpleasant surprise; a trickle fed by a collection of shallow lakes. typical of my primitive nature, i decided to walk to water. a recurrent theme of my up north adventures. I think the water was high, the season early and the walk short. Please feel free to relieve me of my ignorance. i generally work with my hands and not my mind and am subject to error. More so since my mind seems to age faster than my body which is in the process of shape-shifting into an over ripe pear in needs of constant chemical repair.


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