Advertising

View topic - Prolific Canoe Designers

It is currently December 19th, 2014, 8:29 pm

All times are UTC - 5 hours





Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 20 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next
Author Message
 Post subject: Prolific Canoe Designers
PostPosted: April 8th, 2005, 5:27 pm 
Offline

Joined: June 28th, 2001, 7:00 pm
Posts: 1497
Location: Freeland, Maryland USA
Pknoerr’s post of David Yost designs to the “Best Solo Canoe” thread was a list I very much appreciated, and it got me thinking about the prolific canoe designers past and present. Who are (were) they, and what boat designs are their legacy?

For starters, I’d nominate the following for the designer hall of fame, in no particular order (and this list is by no mean complete).

So, whose designs are your favorites, and why?

Ev Crozier – Sundowner, Echo, Spirit, Spirit II and some marathon racing tandems.

Harold Deal – SRT, Crossfire, Dragonfly, Shaman

Bob Foote – Dagger Genesis, Rival, Phantom. Navarro Loon, Pursuit and Egret. Bell Prodigy and Nexus (with Yost).

Mike Galt – Dandy, Blackhawk, Egret, Mirage, BJX.

Jim Henry – Darn near all of the vintage MRC boats: Malecite, Explorer, Freedom, revelation, Quest, Eclipse, Destiny, Guide, Sunrunner, Lamoille, Independence, Liberty.

Jogn Foster (with Henry) – Outrage, Rampage, Synergy

Frankie Hubbard – Edge, the Viper series, Probe 12, Ocoee, Savage Superfly, Robson CU-fly

Gene Jensen – Whitewater II, Jensen 17 & 18, V1 Pro boat, V1A, 4/32 Cruiser, J 190-203 series, SCR.

Steve Killing – Freedom 15, 17 and 17/9, Splitrock, 18’6” Marathon, Cottage Cruiser

Dave Kruger – Voyageur, K-160, Encounter, Advantage, Prism, Rouge, Solo Plus, Moccasin

Bruce Kunz – Merlin, Peregrine, Kestrel, 38 Special, North West Cruiser

John Winters – Osprey, Shearwater, Mattawa, Kipewa, Temagami, Winisk, Queitco, Dumoine, Yukon and many more.

Nolan Whitesell…Howie LaBrant…Pat Moore…

Dang but we’re lucky to live and paddle when hulls from designers like these have been available.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Prolific Canoe Designers
PostPosted: April 8th, 2005, 5:46 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: December 2nd, 2002, 7:00 pm
Posts: 3750
Location: Grand Haven, Michigan U.S.A.
Mike McCrea wrote:
Mike Galt – Dandy, Blackhawk, Egret, Mirage, BJX..


Mike designed the Dandy, Bardy Jones Express (BJX), Cygnet, MGA, Swan, Egret, and I think the Caper too

Pat Moore…Blackhawk Proem 85, Blackhawk Covenant 115, Moore Reverie, Moore Adventurer, Moore Andante, Moore Solex, Moore Cruiser, Moore Voyageur, I think he designed the Blackhawk Nighthawk/Fishhawk too

Phil Sigglekow - Ariel, Shadow Series (11.8, 127, 14, 15'4"), Zephyr, Starship, Watersmeet, SS Special, and two Combis

PK


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: April 8th, 2005, 6:01 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: November 18th, 2003, 5:35 pm
Posts: 948
Don't forget the guys at Esquif, Trailhead, Hemlock and Old Town.
Cheers,
GG


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: April 8th, 2005, 6:46 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: January 17th, 2005, 8:46 pm
Posts: 184
Location: Buena Vista, Virginia
Pat Moore also did Peter Ponds I and II


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Old Town
PostPosted: April 8th, 2005, 7:06 pm 
Offline

Joined: June 28th, 2001, 7:00 pm
Posts: 1497
Location: Freeland, Maryland USA
Gerald Guay wrote:
Don't forget the guys at Esquif, Trailhead, Hemlock and Old Town. GG


Old Town doesn't seem to credit their designers as much as some manufacturers, but more for influence than prolific design, I'd have to nominate Bart Hauthaway for OT's little Rushton-style Pack canoe.

That may have been the genesis, or at least the rebirth, of pack-style canoes, and perhaps the kernel of an idea that launched small recreational sit-on-the-bottom boats. And so, 30 years later the proliferation of rec kayaks, not to mention the dozens of boat makers with Wee Lassie or other Rushton named boats in their product line.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: April 8th, 2005, 8:15 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: December 2nd, 2002, 7:00 pm
Posts: 3750
Location: Grand Haven, Michigan U.S.A.
[quote="Gerald Guay"]Don't forget the guys at Esquif, Trailhead, Hemlock and Old Town.
Cheers,
GG[/quote

Gerald, I think that the Hemlocks are really more evolutions of the old Curtis hulls. They even look like Yost designs.

PK


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: April 8th, 2005, 8:48 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: May 11th, 2003, 2:57 am
Posts: 540
Location: Burlington On.
HOW do you guys come by all this knowledge? :o
Once again the resources on this site amaze, truly amaze. :clap:


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Prolific Canoe Designers
PostPosted: May 1st, 2012, 3:42 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: July 29th, 2009, 9:29 am
Posts: 316
Location: Lower Saranac Lake, NY
I was looking for data on the Galt Heron when this thread popped up. Guy's. you forgot someone kind of important. David Yost's commercially produced Boats as of May` 2012; [109] include:

Tubbs: [1] Minuteman

Colden: [5] FlashFire, WildFire, Nomad, DragonFly, StarFire

Curtis: [9] Solo Tripper, Vagabond, Nomad, MayFly, LadyBug, BlueGill,
Dragonfly, Companion, NorthStar.

Sawyer: [10] Autumn Mist, Star Light, DY Special, Summersong, Shock Wave,
Solo 13/Coda, X-17, 222 Cruiser, 190 Cruiser, Legend.

Loon Works: [11] Pal 15, Duet 15, My Bug 13, Wee Bug 13, Mistral 15, My Toy
10.5, Button 12, Solitare 12.5, Nakoma 13, Allegro 13.5, Aria 14

Swift: [13] canoes: Heron. Loon, Otter, Keewaydin, Algonquian 15, 16,17 [Outfitters] Keewaydin I7, Keewaydin 16, Keewaydin15 Prospector15, Prospector16, Prospector17
[13] kayaks: Adirondack 10LT, 12, 12LT, 13.6,
Saranac; Classic, 14LV Sport, 14 Spt, 14.5, 15
Kiwassa 12.6LV, 12.6, 13.2, 13.2LV

Perception: [6] Spectrum, Spectrum S, Prism, Keewee 2, Carolina, Crossfire

Bell: [27] Bucktail, Magic, Merlin II, Rob Roy 15, Rob Roy 12, FlashFire, WildFire,
YellowStone Royalex, StarFire, Northwoods, NorthWind, NorthStar, Morning Star,
Morning Star Royalex, North Wind Royalex, BackWater, Mystic, Prodigy, YellowStone Solo Prodegy X, Nexus, YellowStone, Alaska, Companion, Prospector, NorthShore, CrossFireIII.

Hemlock [4] [Curtis hulls as plugs] Kestrel, Peregrine, Eaglet, Eagle

Placid Boatworks [5] SpitFire 12, SpitFire 13, RapidFire, Ohneka, Shadow

Carl’s Rowing [1] Adirondack 15

Plus another hundred wood strippers as prototypes that never saw the production .

Steve Scarborough is another important designer for Blue Hole, Starburst, Sunburst, etc and Dagger, Sojourn, Encore, Prophet, Interlude, Passage, Legend, Reflection 15, 16, Caper, CrossFire, RPM, Redline, FreeFall, Blackwater, Edisto, Latitude, Specter, Stika, Meridian, Magellin, and many more. Let me think about that a little, ABS WW oriented hulls and kayaks, WW or touring aren't my specialty. I'll get back.

charlie


Last edited by Charlie Wilson on May 1st, 2012, 8:39 pm, edited 4 times in total.

Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Prolific Canoe Designers
PostPosted: May 1st, 2012, 5:20 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: August 11th, 2002, 7:00 pm
Posts: 4871
Location: Sunny Wasaga Beach
Don't forget fellow CCR member John Winters!(ooops--I see the OP did list him)

http://www.northwestcanoe.com/canoes.html

http://www.noahsmarine.com/html/cedar_s ... ts-us.html

_________________
Old canoeists never die---they just smell that way.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Prolific Canoe Designers
PostPosted: May 1st, 2012, 5:36 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: February 19th, 2004, 9:53 pm
Posts: 1416
Location: Atlanta
Jiim Henry also designed the Compatriot, the Courier, and the TW-Special.

Jon Berry ought to be on the list somewhere. The AC/DC lives on....

For Steve Scarborough, I'm not sure which designs were his alone and which a team effort. I remember the woodstrip sunburst prototype racing on the Nantahala.

Bob Foote also did the Paradigm.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Prolific Canoe Designers
PostPosted: May 2nd, 2012, 7:16 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: December 2nd, 2002, 7:00 pm
Posts: 3750
Location: Grand Haven, Michigan U.S.A.
Damn, Charlie, you are correcting a thread from 2005 with newly designed hulls made by manufacturers that weren't even conceived in 2005!

PK


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Prolific Canoe Designers
PostPosted: May 2nd, 2012, 9:26 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: March 7th, 2005, 3:00 am
Posts: 552
Location: Hamilton, Ontario
I'll throw in John Diller of Savage River Canoe, just for designing some of the canoes I'll always lust after and probably never paddle.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Prolific Canoe Designers
PostPosted: May 6th, 2012, 11:24 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: December 19th, 2006, 8:47 pm
Posts: 7638
Location: Rattlesnake Pond ME
pknoerr wrote:
Damn, Charlie, you are correcting a thread from 2005 with newly designed hulls made by manufacturers that weren't even conceived in 2005!

PK



Not entirely true. DY has been around for a LOT longer than 2005.

Hemlocks are not evolutions of DY hulls per Dave Curtis..But its a fascinating topic best discussed at a campfire.

Harold Deal did not do the DragonFly design but speced out the parameters; what he wanted DY to do for its design. Kind of a hot button between the two but old age and years have mellowed everyone.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Prolific Canoe Designers
PostPosted: May 7th, 2012, 8:31 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: January 16th, 2010, 8:46 am
Posts: 299
Location: Ontario
I would add Skip Izon....a pure genius in my mind....check out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xoqf1cunOCc#

_________________
And the paddle, in the water, is a long, lost friend.
There are times I’d like to wander down a river without end,
In a hull of flowing cedar, carved by knowing hands....

From Shield by Dave Hadfield

http://reflectionsoutdoors.wordpress.com/


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Prolific Canoe Designers
PostPosted: May 9th, 2012, 7:12 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: July 29th, 2009, 9:29 am
Posts: 316
Location: Lower Saranac Lake, NY
Let's twist this thread a little and try listing those designers whose hulls have achieved significant sales, say over 10,000 units.

Ev Crozier [ Crozier, Wenonah]

Gene Jensen [Crozier, Wenonah, Clipper, Souris River]

Brian Henry [Current Designs]

Jim Henry [Mad river Canoe]

Dave Kruger [Wenonah, Bell]

Lee Moyer [Perception, Wenonah, Pacific WaterSports]

Steve Scarborough [Blue Hole, Dagger]

Andy Singer [Wilderness Systems]

John Winters [Swift, QCC]

David Yost [Bell, Curtis, Colden, Sawyer, Perception, Swift, Placid]

I'm missing some WW Kayak guys


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 20 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next

All times are UTC - 5 hours


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 2 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007 phpBB Group