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PostPosted: May 22nd, 2023, 12:20 am 
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Recped and Tom and I are off to the Bay again. This time, down the Upper Kesagami to the Partridge River. T-minus 5 days.

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Ben said something about trying a lunar crossing of Lake K. .....?

We'll miss you and Pippa, Sam !!!!
There's still time to change your mind.

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PostPosted: May 22nd, 2023, 9:22 am 
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Oh man, I wish I could attend on this trip!! Have fun boys!!!

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PostPosted: May 24th, 2023, 8:21 am 
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I will be interested to hear about the Partridge. I ran it with my daughter about 10 years ago but too late in the season and ended up dragging the canoe for a lot of the trip. I expect in higher water it would be a great river.


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PostPosted: May 25th, 2023, 9:39 am 
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Haha; I did a lunar crossing of lake kesagami many years ago, was a surreal and exhausting experience!

Make sure you have a known campsite to aim for, or bring a very good flashlight; it's very difficult to find a site in the middle of the night.

When we finally found something reasonably flat in the middle of the night; we woke up a few hours later to find we were on a floating bed of sphagnum.


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PostPosted: June 7th, 2023, 7:03 pm 
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sbaillie wrote:
Haha; I did a lunar crossing of lake kesagami many years ago, was a surreal and exhausting experience!

Make sure you have a known campsite to aim for, or bring a very good flashlight; it's very difficult to find a site in the middle of the night.

When we finally found something reasonably flat in the middle of the night; we woke up a few hours later to find we were on a floating bed of sphagnum.


Didn’t you have an online site with trip reports including the North French and a number of other James Bay rivers?

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PostPosted: June 13th, 2023, 11:40 am 
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I didn't, you may be thinking of brad bassi's page; the very first page I found detailing far north canoe trips that inspired me to leave behind the comforts of Algonquin and La Verendrye 20 years ago.

Its only available now in the wayback machine:

https://web.archive.org/web/20131008092 ... river.html

The only other page I recall seeing about the north french river was moosebunk's, but they were fishing trips coming up from the bay, not canoe trips descending the river; still great reading though!

https://bunksoutdoorangle.com/fishing-t ... ver-flows/


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PostPosted: June 13th, 2023, 3:17 pm 
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sbaillie wrote:
I didn't, you may be thinking of brad bassi's page; the very first page I found detailing far north canoe trips that inspired me to leave behind the comforts of Algonquin and La Verendrye 20 years ago.

Its only available now in the wayback machine:

https://web.archive.org/web/20131008092 ... river.html

The only other page I recall seeing about the north french river was moosebunk's, but they were fishing trips coming up from the bay, not canoe trips descending the river; still great reading though!

https://bunksoutdoorangle.com/fishing-t ... ver-flows/


Funny you said that, he inspired me too to paddle the Bay rivers. Thank you for the links!!

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PostPosted: June 14th, 2023, 11:49 pm 
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Quick report out on our trip before I write up the official version:
Good time had by all, though we returned a little battered & bruised. Low water for sure. Should have been there as soon as possible following ice out on Kesagami (and tried to leave earlier but a work thing prevented us from doing so). So - UKR - about what we expected + great weather and very few bugs. Up Newnham Bay battling some fierce north winds. Crossing K Lake went fine - a bit windy and choppy. Port into Partridge was as expected - squishy and muddy. Upper river was shallow and boney and then became a bit more paddle-able. Decent paddling past the lakes, more headwinds. Then, where the best ww should have been, we spent 2.5-3 days dragging boats through rock gardens with ankle deep water, and over shale shoals that chewed the bottoms of our boats like a cheese grater, then over all the ledges getting around Bear Island (left channel). Past Bear Island it was largely paddle-able again - a few more long shoals to drag over. Two junky buggy riverside raised shelf campsites, but the rest were good. Windbound for an afternoon as we pulled out into the Bay and couldn't make any headway. Second attempt left us sitting in the sand for 7 hours waiting for the tide to come back and float us out. But that cold north wind kept the bugs away... and had us all teeth a-chattering. When the tide came in, we zipped across to the west shore of the Moose for a lovely last night, and then up to the train without incident. As usual, there were copious quantities of whatever makes we hedonists happy, and though we went 3 days longer than our Plan C, we did not go hungry, thirsty, or get low. Put-in on Sat May 27, take out / train out on Monday June 12 - so 17 river days if you count the train day (which is mostly just waiting for the thing to leave), with no layover days - which would have helped - the dragging was pretty physically taxing. Cochrane to Maine was a 16 hour marathon drive, and Tom is just now pulling into his place in Virginia, having left here about 14 hours ago - that's a long solo. Some fish caught, croquet played, & stories swapped. Very remote feeling - virtually no sign of human passage or presence. Big fires were way south of us, and north wind was driving all the smoke south, so we only knew about it bc someone mentioned it in a garmin post. One custom-made double-blade and a stainless steel plate were lost in a tragic tidal dish-washing accident. Film at 11.

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PostPosted: June 15th, 2023, 12:25 pm 
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Hey glad you guys made it back safe and sound! Look forward to the detailed report!

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PostPosted: June 15th, 2023, 5:01 pm 
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Similar experience to ours except we did it in July (2011) and got flown into Partridge Lake. It sounds like you dragged and walked all the same sections as us. It is not an experience I want to repeat. We wore a hole through an Esquif Canyon from all the dragging that duct tape barely sealed. On the final morning in a narrow channel before James Bay we came across the largest black bear I have ever seen. Fortunately he had no interest in us as we had nowhere to go. Then the boat that was going to pick us up at James Bay did not show up. $200 later in Sat phone bills I was told he didn't want to come out. Another boat finally did and we made the train with 15 minutes to spare. I have never been so happy to see Moosonee.


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PostPosted: June 16th, 2023, 8:25 am 
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The Mohawk XL took the worst beating on this trip, with a gash right down to the core. The Tformex Canyon did better than the Mohawk, but there was an awful lot of missing gel coat. The royalex Moisie seemed to come off the best - or maybe its captain was just better at picking lines... - still, it took left its share of red plastic on the river. We also tried to arrange for a freighter shuttle from the mouth of the river, but the driver couldn't get close enough at the appointed time, and we couldn't get to him, let alone even see him, which led to our wait on the sand. But he met us the next morning after we got to Shipsands and saved us the paddle up the Moose against the tide.

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