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 Post subject: Noire vs Coulonge
PostPosted: February 2nd, 2015, 12:26 pm 
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Any preferences between these 2 rivers?
We have done the Dumoine and would like to do one of these.


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 Post subject: Re: Noire vs Coulonge
PostPosted: February 2nd, 2015, 1:03 pm 
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I have a preference for the Coulonge. The shuttle is shorter (I think), the rapids are somewhat more interesting and plentiful and there is no killer portage like Grand Chute on the Noire where you have to rope your boats 20 m down an extremely steep hill. The bottom of the Noire is shallow and a pain to navigate at low water. The bottom (below Grand Chute) and also get crowded with people doing 1-2 day trips and there are not a lot of good camp sites.


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 Post subject: Re: Noire vs Coulonge
PostPosted: February 2nd, 2015, 2:16 pm 
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If I could paddle the upper Coulonge and lower Noire I would be very happy since IMO that is best of both rivers. This can be done using the crossover route.

I would put both of these rivers on your to do list. Personally I prefer the Noire...I find it friendly, less crowded, beautiful sand beaches, and easy logistics. I do however really like the upper Coulonge...nice scenery and fun rapids.

I've paddled both from headwaters and usually paddle the Noire every year. The portage as mentioned above really isn't that bad as long as you paddle to the last take out on the left shore at brink of falls...sounds scary but is actually very easy with intermediate skill. If concerned one could always line to portage.

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 Post subject: Re: Noire vs Coulonge
PostPosted: February 15th, 2015, 1:26 am 
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I enjoyed both rivers. Both feature beautiful sandy beaches and fun rapids.

I have to disagree with Peter K, there is a grueling portage on the Coulonge (I can't remember which rapid it was around) , our group nicknamed it the 'portage from hell'.

I have some photos from both rivers here :
http://thecanoegroup.wix.com/thebeavertails


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 Post subject: Re: Noire vs Coulonge
PostPosted: February 15th, 2015, 4:16 pm 
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Alex,

Killer portage? Don't remember one (and usually I would) and can't find anything that looks like a candidate in Hap's book. Where did you have in mind? Was low water the problem?


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 Post subject: Re: Noire vs Coulonge
PostPosted: February 15th, 2015, 6:17 pm 
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The portage at Rapides Enrages is pretty bad if you make the mistake of taking the short trail by the river instead of the long route on the road

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 Post subject: Re: Noire vs Coulonge
PostPosted: February 15th, 2015, 8:41 pm 
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@Recped It sounds like we made that mistake!
@Peter probably what recped said. The downpour didn't help matters!


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