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PostPosted: November 16th, 2018, 11:30 pm 
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Hi everyone, has anyone had experience with IXP layup for whitewater canoes? I considering purchasing a Northstar Phoenix. I know getting a positive review from Cliff Jacobson should be more than enough but I still would like to hear from others. Thanks.


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PostPosted: November 17th, 2018, 11:43 am 
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I'd never heard of IXP but looks like that is an aramid (kevlar) / innegra combo with resin.

I'll be following this thread with interest.


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PostPosted: November 17th, 2018, 11:50 am 
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Any idea what the ratio is of innegra to aramid? One thing I found said "subtantial" but that does not really say much.


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PostPosted: November 17th, 2018, 12:09 pm 
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Prospector16 - I haven't been able to find much on IXP. Here's Northstar's full description - "Substantial Innegra with an inner blanket of Aramid. Innegra has excellent impact absorption, great flex and good abrasion resistance. A full wet vacuum bag makes a durable, reasonably light canoe. Multiple layers of Innegra with no foam core or ribs means a canoe capable of extended river tripping and expedition whitewater. An extremely durable lamination with far better performance than Royalex. Exterior resin coated because gel coat chips and cracks when subjected to substantial impacts.”


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PostPosted: November 18th, 2018, 1:42 pm 
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A bit of a review here
https://happypaddlin.com/2017/09/08/nor ... canoe-ixp/

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PostPosted: November 18th, 2018, 11:09 pm 
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I think I'm just going to have to buy it and find out. I'll report back :) Thanks for the input. Cheers.


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PostPosted: November 27th, 2018, 12:34 pm 
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Gnarly, that sounds great to me! Full disclosure, I'm GM at Northstar.

Solo IXP hulls have 9 layers of Innegra and 1 Kevlar on the bottom.

I took an IXP Phoenix out for a 17 day solo on the Thoa River in the NWT to beat it up. Lots of dragging and rapids. We took IXP B 17s down the Lower Canyons of the Rio Grande on an 8 day trip last February. My wife and I spent 18 days in one of those same hulls on the Bloodvein last July. Low water = lots of abrasion and impacts. Both boats are scratched up, but nothing more than that.


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PostPosted: November 27th, 2018, 5:01 pm 
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Thanks Bear

Any chance you could post pictures?


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PostPosted: November 28th, 2018, 5:21 pm 
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We've had an Innegra layup canoe by H2O for 2 seasons now and it's held up great.
Happy Paddling


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PostPosted: November 29th, 2018, 4:20 pm 
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Yes. But, I'm not sure if I've been successful in getting a few photos stored on my laptop onto this post... If I've been successful the 3 pictures are all of rapids I rapid fully loaded with the intent of beating up the boat. Total load ~350lbs.

I took a video of the bottom of the B 17 at the end of the Bloodvein trip. I'll dig that out and post on Northstar's facebook page in the near future.

Is this what you're looking for?


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PostPosted: November 29th, 2018, 4:23 pm 
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Guess I failed on the pictures...

Emailing me might be an easier way to go if you want to see a few of the rapids that I ran on the Thoa with the Phoenix. bear@northstarcanoes.com


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PostPosted: December 2nd, 2018, 8:35 am 
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Bear.. Photos need to be resized to 800x600 pixels. And then uploading is easiest using the IMG tag on the full editor.

It is a PITA but I understand the reason for it and just don't upload many photos because the bandwidth is so restricted


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PostPosted: December 2nd, 2018, 3:18 pm 
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Just get a picture sharing service like imgur and post your pictures there, and post the link here


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PostPosted: December 3rd, 2018, 3:06 pm 
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Not IXP but I built my own canoe from carbon, kevlar, and fiberglass with no core. I also ended up with 9 layers on the bottom of the boat. I took it on a 42 day trip that saw quite a bit of whitewater, dragging, and loading/unloading on rocky shores. It did great. I wouldn't think twice taking at IXP boat on a similar (or tougher) trip.

Boat before the trip: Image20160405_004 by Alan, on Flickr

Boat after the trip: Image20161017_002 by Alan, on Flickr

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PostPosted: December 3rd, 2018, 6:14 pm 
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The after looks SOOOOOOO much better but I think a colour other than black might be nice if it's possible with that layup.

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