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 Post subject: Cedar canoe I.D.
PostPosted: August 23rd, 2022, 1:09 am 
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Hopefully I’m in the right section. I picked up a cedar strip canoe over 10 years ago and I’m trying to I.D. the model. I bought it off a canoe maker in Rimouski who said he made his canoes for American Traders. I never got used to it and is still in great shape. I preferred my regular cedar strip for trips and found this too tippy even for day fishing. Good to paddle though. He attached foam to the gunwales probably because of the balance. Find the foam ugly. Thanks for your help or direction


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 Post subject: Re: Cedar canoe I.D.
PostPosted: August 23rd, 2022, 8:41 am 
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I have some old American Trader’s catalogs and information.

If you post the dimensions, length, depth at center, max & gunwale width and weight, I may be able to help narrow down the model.

EDIT: If there is a readable HIN the year (last two digits) might help narrow it down as well. There might even be some model designation buried in those HIN characters.


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 Post subject: Re: Cedar canoe I.D.
PostPosted: August 23rd, 2022, 3:45 pm 
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Heading to the camp in 3 weeks. What’s the best way to post pictures. I take them on IPhone.


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 Post subject: Re: Cedar canoe I.D.
PostPosted: August 24th, 2022, 12:48 pm 
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frisco wrote:
I bought it off a canoe maker in Rimouski who said he made his canoes for American Traders.


Frisco, jumping the gun on your trip to camp, and presuming the builder would have used the same strongback or design as what he built for American Traders, that company had a slick color catalog page (single page tri-fold) of their most popular models. Per that American Traders “catalog”:

The Princess. Length 11’ 9”, beam 34”, weight 37lbs
The Mohawk. Length 13’ 8”, beam 39”, weight 58lbs
The Huron. Length 15’ 8”, beam 37”, weight 66 lbs
The Trader. Length 16’, beam 34”, weight 55 lbs
The Atkinson Traveler. Length 17’ 6”, beam 35”, weight 70 lbs.

If it seems to be one of those models I could (with offspring assistance) scan-in and send you a copy of that color tri-fold, which has blah-blah-blah prose verbiage about the history and intended use of each model.

There were a LOT of other American Traders models ; the Algonquin, Pasquinel, Sylvian, Tender, Prospector, Wee Lassie, Freedom, Red Bird, NW Cheeman, Racine, Trundy, Pleasure, Fisherman and Ogilvy to name a few. No wonder American Trader’s sub-contracted out the builds. I have basic spec dimensions, weights and MSRP for all of those if needed once you have an ID measurement.

American Traders is still in business, now building canoes in Vermont, including many of those same models.

http://www.amtraders.com/c-fullcatalog.asp?sort=group

Remember to bring your tape measure to camp.


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 Post subject: Re: Cedar canoe I.D.
PostPosted: August 25th, 2022, 4:30 pm 
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2weeks. Still recovering from surgery. I have a couple old pictures on my IPhone but not a clue how to upload them?


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 Post subject: Re: Cedar canoe I.D.
PostPosted: August 26th, 2022, 7:09 am 
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frisco wrote:
have a couple old pictures on my IPhone but not a clue how to upload them?


There are challenges beyond my ken to posting photos on CCR unless they are liked to from a photo hosting site. A search of the site will produce several threads with work-arounds.

But unless someone really knows and recognizes the various American Trader’s canoe models from a photo the dimensions will be more helpful in identifying which model it may be.

“May be”. Although I suspect the boat was build on stations for some American Trader’s canoe it is possible that the builder tweaked some things to build canoes of his own design.

If the length, width and depth closely match some American Trader’s model I’d call it that.


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 Post subject: Re: Cedar canoe I.D.
PostPosted: August 26th, 2022, 3:13 pm 
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I'll be there in 2 weeks. Can't spend any more time trying to post pic.s. Too old. I had photobucket before but it lapsed.


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