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PostPosted: August 24th, 2008, 9:01 pm 
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http://www.purcelltrench.com/index.htm

We have the travellers grill, and it has never let us down. Unbelievably light, and very strong. I see that they now have portable, packable stoves, and also some new grills - one for general cooking hambergers/fish over the fire, and a voyaguer grill that is between what we have had for the past 9 years and the fish grill.

Ours is used every trip, even if it is just for boiling water. It is small enough to slide in everywhere, the case keeps our packs/barrels clean, and light enough to carry.

Just though I would mention it - was looking it up for a friend that was so impressed he has to have one.

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PostPosted: August 24th, 2008, 9:12 pm 
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I've been using the Voyageur model....I'll give them a second thumbs up for sure...super light and gets used every single trip!

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PostPosted: August 24th, 2008, 9:36 pm 
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Those look great. If they only had legs. There isn't always the best rocks where I go.


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PostPosted: May 24th, 2010, 8:32 pm 
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Mountain Equipment Coop sells a nice grill too....theirs has a a double frame with the cross pieces sandwiched in between.

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PostPosted: May 24th, 2010, 9:16 pm 
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segosih wrote:
Mountain Equipment Coop sells a nice grill too....theirs has a a double frame with the cross pieces sandwiched in between.

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Well I suppose for 8 bucks ... but, as is generally the case, you get what you pay for - the welds break under campfire heat plus its pretty heavy (better than twice what the Purcell Trench weighs), unless you don't mind cooking crap all over everything, you'll have to come up with a carrying case and, of course, its made in China. Fact is well made, well designed, and light come at a price. Is the Purcell 6 times as good as the GSI? To me, yes, without a doubt. But that's just me.


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PostPosted: May 24th, 2010, 11:19 pm 
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I agree that the Traveller is a superior grill, but at $50 bucks that a bit over the top, unless of course you are solely backpacking. I carry the GSI grill that MEC sells and have also noticed a couple that have had defective welds. I haven't had one returned yet with a weld that has broken in the field. I suspect that they are improperly welded at the factory rather than a field failure. Yes, they are made in China.

I'm hoping to manufacturer in Canada and offer my own custom made grill that will fit the Black Spruce Gear stove by the end of the summer. I plan to make them in stainless steel and estimate they will cost somwhere around $20 a grill and weight half what the GSI grill weighs.

I'm wondering if there is a market out there for a $20 stainless steel grill that is lightweight but not necessarily ultra-light?

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PostPosted: May 25th, 2010, 1:42 am 
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Weight is not so important to me and I would only use it infrequently so price makes a difference.

Would I buy one......maybe

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PostPosted: May 25th, 2010, 9:07 am 
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Some of us are prepared to pay a premium for ultralight gear and some are not. I happen to be in the former rather than the later group.

My Streamside Packer (140 gm with storage bag) is a bullet proof piece of ultralight gear. About .54 kg lighter than the other grill mentioned and no broken welds.

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PostPosted: May 25th, 2010, 12:32 pm 
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Clarkeaw wrote:
I'm wondering if there is a market out there for a $20 stainless steel grill that is lightweight but not necessarily ultra-light?


I'll answer with a resounding maybe!

I'm using square steel bars right now - very versatile, very strong, but fairly heavy, and requires a bit of care to use. Like others, I'm really interested in the Purcell lightweight grills, but it's not a priority item for me so I'm reluctant to spend the money.

Your solution for a lower price point may have me move away from the steel bars.

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PostPosted: May 25th, 2010, 3:49 pm 
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Try the dump. Old fridges and stoves are full of grills. Take a pair of bolt cutters and trim to the size you like. Burn the finish off in a hot fire. You now have a grill and if you lose it, so what, make another.


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PostPosted: May 26th, 2010, 6:10 am 
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Purcell Trench Grill is one of those rare manufacturers that totally revolutionizes a type of gear, setting the quality and function bar so much higher. Welded tubular stainless steel that is incredibly light and strong – no other manufacturer that I am aware of even comes close. From what I have seen and used out there, I think it is the world's best lightweight canoe tripping and hiking grill in its class.

I own two models: The Voyageur and the Traveler. I use mostly fire for cooking when below treeline, and I mostly travel solo, and so light weight grills are extremely important to me. I am getting and feeling older (ugh!) - lighter pack weight is now important. I am a canoe tripper first and have carried the Voyageur on many trips. Late in life I got into backpacking, and cutting weight for backpacking is critical, and I just bought the Traveler and used it on a hike this past weekend – excellent!

It does normally need rocks for support. But if stuck in a land of sand with no handy rocks, you can hollow out the sand and use logs as the supports, and replace the logs if they burn out.

Well worth the money based on the thousands of Km's I travel over the years. Lose my grill? No way. They provide a grill bag with bright colours that I hang up in camp. I will see it and won’t forget it. The grills will probably outlast me. I will put them in my will.

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PostPosted: May 26th, 2010, 7:28 am 
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If weight was really a concern to me I would grab up a lightweight one in a heartbeat. If I need to trim any tripping weight, some of what I carry 'round my midriff would be the first place I should look. 8)

That said, I use the cheap GSI one when I need one which is rarely. It serves me well and cleans up real easy too. No need for a bag for it at all. I usually don't bring food that requires grilling except on weekend trips like the one this past weekend where we did have a couple juicy steaks the first nights.

To me, a grill is a luxury I can easily do without though. It never comes on longer trips. I prefer to use a stove for cooking and heating water anyway, other then grilling meats. Often I don't even have a fire.

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PostPosted: May 26th, 2010, 7:37 am 
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HOOP_ wrote:
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I use mostly fire for cooking when below treeline, and I mostly travel solo, and so light weight grills are extremely important to me. I am getting and feeling older (ugh!) - lighter pack weight is now important. .



You should think about using a little wood stove. They can be quite easy to make and weigh much less than a pond(mine was, and does)

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PostPosted: May 26th, 2010, 5:31 pm 
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wotrock wrote:
You should think about using a little wood stove. They can be quite easy to make and weigh much less than a pond(mine was, and does)


Hi Wotrock,

I am there! :D I just obtained a Littlbug JR stick stove. http://www.littlbug.com/
I have not used it yet, but I look forward to testing it out. On my digtal food scale at home, it and its case weigh 204g. My Purcell Traveler and its case weigh 188g. So if I was a gram weenie (which I am not for canoeing, but I am for hiking), my grill "wins". Of course it has a different type of burn than a stove does. I build my fires really low and keep the rocks tight in a U shaped rock set up for maximum reflection, so I can feed sticks in from the bottom of the open part of the U, and cook effectively. And I can heat two pots at once saving time....but I burn more wood. With the stick stove I can only heat one pot at a time, and probably have to feed it more and spend more time tending for two pots of food plus hot water...but maybe burn less wood....but maybe take more time? So I suspect there are trade offs to be experimented with.

So many experiments to try, so little time.........On my next canoe trip I plan to bring both since they are both so screaming light!
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PostPosted: May 26th, 2010, 6:58 pm 
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Wow ! 188 grams. I will definetly have to look into manufacturing my grills using hollow tube stainless steel.

Has anyone experienced warpage of the grill in intense heat?

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