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PostPosted: November 25th, 2011, 6:44 pm 
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Mike, I'm open to a lot of things, and wouldn't dismiss the possibility of a sasquatch. Although I can't confirm their existence, I can confirm that you support my theory about internet specialists, in that you can't contain yourself from dismissing those contrary to your opinion.
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Most of you don't have a clue what's really going on, that includes science.


I have taken my jabs at science in the past as well, but usually because i was trying to "poke the hornet's nest". There is room in life for divergent opinions, without resorting to essentially calling us stupid. After all, despite your claims, all you really have is an opinion, no need to classify the rest of us according to your opinion.


I apologize and wasn't calling anyone stupid.
I said that most don't have a clue what's really going on and that is the truth. I obviously meant about the Sasquatch.
My intention wasn't to put anyone down for their belief.
Sometimes it's difficult to relay your emotions online properly.
There's no animosity or anger behind my statements. I'm just a passionate guy :)

When I state that what I heard was 100% Primate and there's absolutely nothing else it could be, I'm not talking out my you know what.
I've camped, fished and hiked through woods for 30 years. I'm 44.
Never once did I have an experience anything close to this.
When you're looking for them in an area of previous activity, calling out to them and they show up vocalizing Gorilla like whoops only more articulate and pronounced with a massive lung capacity, it shocks you to your very core. There's absolutely nothing like it.
You don't have to see it to know exactly what it is.
I'm very aware of my surroundings and what my experiences have been.
It's absolutely fascinating and frustrating at the same time.
I can completely understand why it's so difficult to gain quality film footage of them. An enigmatic species to say the least.

Most Scientists are afraid to have their name associated with the name Bigfoot, so they shun the topic. This is why we don't progress.
Thankfully there are a handful that put their reputation on the line and in the end they'll come out on top.

As far as the naysayers, there's no shortage of them and many seem to think they know all the answers.
I know my story sounds insane. I know it makes me look like an idiot at times.
I also know in the end that I'll get the last laugh.
We're not talking ghosts or purple elephants, we're talking about a species that has been documented for hundreds of years. A species that has a plethora of native names.
Continuous sightings by credible witnesses. Recorded vocalizations of an unknown species. Footprints with dermal ridges found in isolated locations.
We also seem to think that we're just too damn smart and there's absolutely no way that a large primate could evade our detection in our North American forests to this day.

I have been given an opportunity like no other and I'm all over it with obsession because I've learned that yes, they are very real and they come closer to us than most would ever believe.
There's many species that evade our detection to a degree that you wouldn't believe.
Wolves in Toronto? Naw. Who would believe that? I'm not talking Coyotes.

Like I mentioned, there's species out there that evade us and you'd never know they were there. Sasquatch are an intelligent species and don't want us to see them. They do a damn good job at it.
I know in time that someone will get proof. We're very close. Most probably still won't believe. That's fine.

Again I apologize if I come across as a pretentious ahole at times.
When you know the answer, there's always many who think they know better.
It's all good man.
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PostPosted: November 28th, 2011, 12:44 pm 
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Mike, you certainly are sure of yourself.

How many of these creatures have you actually seen?

I was duck hunting one time and I heard a duck in the reeds. I went over to flush him out. There was no doubt it was a duck, when you hear one you know one. No mistaking it. Unmistakeable. Undeniable. Absolute certainty. Then the duck yelled "don't shoot".


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PostPosted: November 28th, 2011, 7:11 pm 
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Yes ChrisCanoes, I'm so sure of myself I'd wager everything. That's how sure I am. I know exactly what I've experienced.
The first encounter happened not by chance.
I was shown an area of activity and we were in there looking for evidence and calling them.
Just so happened that they were around. Right place right time.
They approached, we got caught in between them (at least 2), they interacted with each other and we were there to witness an incredible moment.
Since then, I'm hooked big time. There's nothing like it.
No visual, yet. It's not that easy.
How long did it take Dianne Fossey before she saw the Mountain Gorilla?
She knew they were there but it took some time before she caught a visual.

Sasquatch stay in the shadows. They don't reveal themselves very easily.
They approach with caution on their terms. You don't find them. They find you.

As far as a duck call, that's easy to mistake. This is entirely on another level.
This is primate, massive lung capacity, gorilla like whoops with a very human tone to them. It's not human though, the voice is much too large for any human.
Those that have had experiences know exactly what I'm talking about.
I'm just vocal about it. Most keep their mouths shut because of ridicule and looking like fools. I don't care because I know they're very real. In time you'll see.

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PostPosted: November 30th, 2011, 4:42 pm 
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real or not, i know what i saw in 72 was not human, not ape, not bear, walked on two legs, weighed about 300lbs, wasnt a dream since i was with two others, shaggy ratty hair. The subject has a name by every Indian tribe in N. America, Written about in Magellan journals, Lief Eriksens journals in N. American, Explorer David Thompson wrote of his encounter. There are over 50,000 recorded sightings in N. America, footprints that contain dermal ridges, thousands of track cast, hair samples which are from unknown primate made known by scientist, Supported belief by N Americas leading Primatologist (Jeff Meldrum), Dr. Jane Goodall support/believer, The Smithsonian and National Geo support the probable existance of such. Dr, Meldrum obtained DNA from blood found in N. Manitoba two years ago with results determined as "unknown-showing characterists of both human and chimp traits", ....bottom line is I know what I saw and it was real. (.)

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PostPosted: November 30th, 2011, 5:54 pm 
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real or not, i know what i saw in 72 was not human, not ape, not bear, walked on two legs, weighed about 300lbs, wasnt a dream since i was with two others, shaggy ratty hair. The subject has a name by every Indian tribe in N. America, Written about in Magellan journals, Lief Eriksens journals in N. American, Explorer David Thompson wrote of his encounter. There are over 50,000 recorded sightings in N. America, footprints that contain dermal ridges, thousands of track cast, hair samples which are from unknown primate made known by scientist, Supported belief by N Americas leading Primatologist (Jeff Meldrum), Dr. Jane Goodall support/believer, The Smithsonian and National Geo support the probable existance of such. Dr, Meldrum obtained DNA from blood found in N. Manitoba two years ago with results determined as "unknown-showing characterists of both human and chimp traits", ....bottom line is I know what I saw and it was real. (.)


Nice post but it'll never be enough for the skeptics.
You could have clear footage and it'd probably still be cast as a hoax.
Clear footage filmed with a vocalization would be something else.

You know, I know and tens of thousands if not more, know.
We're dealing with an intelligent creature that evades us to an unprecedented degree. One has to see or hear it for themselves to get a full understanding of what we're dealing with.
An incredible species that is bound to one day be documented by science.
If only they'd open up their minds and quit worrying about what all their colleagues would think, we might gain some momentum.
It'll be the Organizations or the Independents that bring it forth.

Much thanks for people like John Bindernagel and Jeff Meldrum.

Thanks again for posting. There's probably others that frequent this site that have had an experience. Maybe reluctant to speak about it which is completely understandable.

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PostPosted: December 5th, 2011, 10:28 pm 
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Saw a Monsterquest episode where they took a digital photo of each frame of the Patterson/Gimlin footage.
After close scrutiny they realized that there was movement in the face.
The mouth opens and closes as well as movement around the eyes.

Sorry but this was 1967. They just wouldn't be thinking that the film would be put under the microscope today and be thinking that maybe we better make the mouth and eyes move.
This footage is as real as it gets. It's held strong to date and always will, because it's real.
Right place, right time.
With logging going on in the area and Sasquatch activity going on, Patterson and Gimlin put themselves in the right place at the right time.

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PostPosted: December 6th, 2011, 7:28 am 
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My favorite part of any Monsterquest episode is the host/founder's name:
"Matt Moneymaker" :rofl:

I think that about says it all...


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PostPosted: December 6th, 2011, 8:41 am 
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An incredible species that is bound to one day be documented by science.
If only they'd open up their minds and quit worrying about what all their colleagues would think, we might gain some momentum.
Want do you expect "science" to do that you and your colleagues can't/won't do?


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PostPosted: December 6th, 2011, 11:42 am 
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Mike McIntosh wrote:
My favorite part of any Monsterquest episode is the host/founder's name:
"Matt Moneymaker" :rofl:

I think that about says it all...


Finding bigfoot stars him too. He hears a twig drop at 300 meters and "it's definitely a sqatch!". I watched about half an episode before turning it in disgust. Nothing scientific about his approach at all.


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PostPosted: December 6th, 2011, 11:54 am 
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paddletothesea wrote:
Supported belief by N Americas leading Primatologist (Jeff Meldrum), Dr. Jane Goodall support/believer


This is why people don't take bigfoot seriously. All the ridiculous claims. From what I could find, Meldrum isn't even a primatologist by training, and he's an associate professor in Idaho. Here's an excerpt from the first article about him I came across:

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That makes him an outcast -- a solitary, Sasquatch-like figure himself -- on the 12,700-student campus, where many scientists are embarrassed by what they call Meldrum's "pseudo-academic" pursuits and have called on the university to review his work with an eye toward revoking his tenure. One physics professor, D.P. Wells, wonders whether Meldrum plans to research Santa Claus, too


No need to exaggerate if the truth is on your side. Meldrum may be a great guy, but he's far from what you claim. The rest of what you claim, apart from your personal sighting experience, are just as hyperbolic and misleading. Let's stick to facts, eh?


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PostPosted: December 7th, 2011, 6:39 pm 
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Well I think I'm done with this thread. I was hoping to gain some insight on some experiences some may have had here but it's not happening.

I've actually had a recent flurry of information sent my way that will help me immensely in my quest. Dealing with skeptics is nothing but a waste of time.
Keep your heads in the sand, just don't forget to come up for air. :lol:
Having the knowledge of their existence can be frustrating at times. I'm determined and know that in the end you're all in for the shock of your life.
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PostPosted: December 7th, 2011, 7:49 pm 
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I think the reason they are hard to find is that they are sterile---like mules and splake. They're just a crossbreed between a hairy ape and a redneck! :D :doh:

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PostPosted: December 8th, 2011, 2:56 am 
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wotrock wrote:
I think the reason they are hard to find is that they are sterile---like mules and splake. They're just a crossbreed between a hairy ape and a redneck! :D :doh:


Wotrock might be on to something. What if sasquatch were really human/ape hybrids bred by Soviet Russia to be the ultimate Cold War recce warriors? Small teams of super soldier "smart apes" with the strength of ten men, but the human ability to learn preprogrammed tasks are secretly dropped by submarine or parachute to spy on military facilities. Facilities that have been strategically placed in out of the way places, so the ability to live off the land unsupported & unseen has a huge strategic advantage.

They are still out there, like Japanese soldiers on isolated islands after WWII, watching us, waiting for a day that will never come.


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PostPosted: December 9th, 2011, 12:58 pm 
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Wondering what everyone makes of Native experiences and lore?


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PostPosted: December 9th, 2011, 1:27 pm 
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I respect Native tales, and the belief in the reality of these tales.
My own ancestors had stories about giants and dwarfs, witches and trolls - human-like beings that all were part of their world. So, I would not diss any of those stories.

I did go back to Kitchi-Gami, a book by a fellow who researched the Ojibwe around Lake Superior in the 1850's. He describes tales of windigos and windigokwes, of Little People and stone canoes, and finds nothing ridiculous about that. But he does not mention any stories about an ape-like man.

Actually, it's interesting that a few folks keep looking for the ape man, but no one seems to search for the Little People.... :wink:

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