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Author:  Doug [ January 14th, 2005, 7:39 am ]
Post subject:  Skin-On-Frame Boats

Are the boats from the Book "Building Skin-On-Frame Boats" by Robert Morris the same as http://www.geodesicairoliteboats.com/ ?

I just picked up the book from the library the other day and like the idea?

Doug

Author:  pknoerr [ January 14th, 2005, 10:16 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Skin-On-Frame Boats

Doug, aren't the boats in the book kayaks. I flipped through the book casually several years ago and havn't looked at it since as I recalled they were all kayaks. As to the Montfort boats... they are very cool. I have two friends that built the Snowshoe 14. I've paddled one and was very impressed with both the durability and the performance.

PK

Doug wrote:
Are the boats from the Book "Building Skin-On-Frame Boats" by Robert Morris the same as http://www.geodesicairoliteboats.com/ ?

I just picked up the book from the library the other day and like the idea?

Doug

Author:  Doug [ January 14th, 2005, 2:49 pm ]
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Hi PK,

In the book there are eight boats;
-4 kayaks (Greenland, Recovery, Netslingmeot & Baidarka*)
-2 Dinghys (Providence River & a pram)
-2 Canoes (Canadian Canoe & Upper Yukon River)

The Baidarka comes with a (user) warning, it's a 19'3" by 17.5" rocket.
.... I like it.

But ya, the "Snowshoe" is pretty cool.


Doug

Author:  pknoerr [ January 14th, 2005, 3:06 pm ]
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Doug wrote:
-2 Canoes (Canadian Canoe & Upper Yukon River)


OK, so I'm assuming both are tandems... the Canadian at 16' approximating something like a Prospector, and the Yukon is a larger tandem. I'm not as interested in tandems as solos, so that too might be why I just passed it by. I'll have to pick it up and page through it again next time I see it at the store.

PK

Author:  Doug [ January 14th, 2005, 4:19 pm ]
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PK;

Canadian Canoe (similar to Prospector) is 16' by 35", tandem.

Upper Yukon River Canoe, at 9'10" and 24.5" wide, I'm assuming it is a solo.
Looks like a West Coast style, flat bottom / hard chine canoe.
Looks like it would be good in shallow water.

Doug

Author:  pknoerr [ January 14th, 2005, 4:58 pm ]
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Doug wrote:
Upper Yukon River Canoe, at 9'10" and 24.5" wide, I'm assuming it is a solo.
Looks like a West Coast style, flat bottom / hard chine canoe.
Looks like it would be good in shallow water.


Hmm, that's interesting. Does it give any history behind the hull shape? I've never heard of the use of small intimate solo canoes on the Upper Yukon.

Now, I'll surely be looking to see that canoe.... Not sure that I'd build the canoe, but surely want to know some more about it.

PK

Author:  Doug [ January 14th, 2005, 9:31 pm ]
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PK,

Have not started to read the book yet, but the author discribes his information as "scanty".
He thinks it was primarily propelled by (double) poles, like skiing. ??
Not the kind of canoe I want either.
Maybe the Canadian Canoe Museum in Peterbough might have information on it.
Funky looking thing though.


That should peak your interest.

Doug

Author:  Jester [ January 15th, 2005, 3:45 pm ]
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Google got a few hits for the phrase Upper Yukon Canoe, one site had this text:

"The Upper Yukon River canoe is a flat-bottomed "kayak-form" canoe. It is partially decked and was used on lakes and fairly slow areas of the Yukon River.

Historic photos show the kayak-form canoe being poled with short sticks in both hands and paddled using a pole-ended paddle. Some of the people paddling my boats in the summer of 2000 used Greenland style kayak paddles.

The Upper Yukon River canoe is a feather-light boat that portages beautifully and benefits from the weight of a little cargo when paddled."

See Brewery Creek HERE

-Jester

Author:  Doug [ January 15th, 2005, 4:18 pm ]
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Are the boats from the Book "Building Skin-On-Frame Boats" by Robert Morris the same as http://www.geodesicairoliteboats.com/ ?
Same construction material & principles?

Doug

Author:  Doug [ January 15th, 2005, 4:27 pm ]
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Go to the Canadian Canoe Museum at http://www.canoemuseum.net/ , part way down, on the right side, there is a picture of a skin-on-frame canoe.
It looks like the "Upper Yukon River canoe" from the book, "Building Skin-On-Frame Boats" by Robert Morris.

Doug

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