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PostPosted: July 21st, 2005, 11:47 pm 
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they are lightning fast but knife through waves and they do not turn.


Good point. I was going on the assumption that "an evening paddle on the Gatineau" likely didn't include much surf conditions.

It does fit the "remembers the canoe" criteria and is "lightning fast" = Ferrari (could paint it red too) :lol:

The hull design would allow an innovative propulsion system (Archimedean screw- perhaps / pedal driven- maybe), negate the need for the "matching" paddle and produce the "soundless glide". :wink:

A screw drive incased in a tube lengthwise below the waterline may add the requested ribbon of "Viking" bubbles :roll: and at rest would serve as a ballast chamber for stability 8) . Certainly assist with straightlne tracking I would think. A rudder would solve the turning problem (help anyway, how wide is the Gatineau around Wakefield? :o )

With a tentative launch date of less than a year and the criteria requested I'm a little concerned about timing. Prototypes of this complexity can add a lot of time to the building process and place no small amount of stress on the poor smoo's who have to put all these exotic ideas and materials together. :doh:

Sounds as if she may be closing on a design so we'll simply have to shhhh, and wait for the Siren's Call. :lol:


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Great ideas all.

What is needed here is (dare I says it) a committee. :D :D :D :D

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Everything new is old.

What Siren needs...well, never mind what Siren needs. What Wakefield needs -- to wrest the riverscape from the fibreglitz bassboats and pontooned pigs that are already starting to appear at the dock in the new Vinyl Village -- is a cedar lapstrake sailing canoe.

Light as a willow leaf (Rushton made one for Nessmuk that weighed ~10 lbs) and lithe as a mayfly, a lapstrake canoe can be paddled or sailed, as the occasion requires. Paddle bare at dusk, or spread your fairy wings at the flotilla...either way you'll have those VIking bubbles, 'cause you'll have the laps that produce them! (And they make a pleasing gurgling sound in a good breeze)..

Stop by and play with my cedar Piccolo, if you feel like it (we're right on the river). II have a stack of books on naval architecture and boat design, if you're in a reading mood..


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What Siren needs

Mr Taylor you are a far braver man than I, she's loading her blasters remember........... :lol: :lol:

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well, never mind what Siren needs

I'm going to be checking the Wakefield paper (if it's on line)........

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Stop by and play with my cedar Piccolo,

Ole "whasisname with the visuals" is going to have a field day if he spies that one.

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cedar lapstrake sailing canoe

Finally, the voice of reason !!!! Great choice Bruce !
Maybe she'll only use one blaster......... :lol: :lol: :lol:


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wood canvass prospector?

or here is a cool front end
Image

Italian Canoe?
[img]mikami.image.pbase.com/.../ 41186735.carlo.jpg
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2. make it light, so light that I can heft it mid ships and let it balance on
.....my shoulder, walking down the street, to the river


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polycarbonate prospector?

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polycarbonate prospector?


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Siren.
Finally managed to find the pic site with the boat I was attempting to explain......... just in case you wanted to take a look at something a little out of the ordinary.

http://www.westcoastpaddler.com/building/thumbnails.php?album=7
There are 2 shots on the 2nd page marked:
"A most unusual wooden craft" & "Serpents Beware"


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Clever paddlers will have recognized the purpose behind my questionaire. They know that people often exagerate their abilities and have fuzzy thinking about their objectives.

Siren1 has proven the point.

Take question #1 or example.

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1. How do you rate your current skill level? (1 if you have never paddled, 10 if you have forgotten more about paddling than most people will ever know).
Siren is an Uber Athlete and paddling credentials posted loooong ago


Is S really as good a Bill Mason? Her answers to the other questions suggest not. I don't consider this a serious problem at this phase of the design process because the real paddler will eventually emerge but I do try to get some clarification by asking the prospective customer to tell me more about what they have done. So S tell me more about your paddling life.

Meanwhile, you can tell me what you weigh so I can do a preliminary design. This really is "need to know". Pesky physics I know but we either pull together or you get someone else's "perfect" boat.

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8)
so you miss me then do you?

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So S tell me more about your paddling life.


Captain tossed me 'Path of the Paddle' once
and said:
'Read this, I want to go on a canoe trip.'
and then
I guess your head was in your e-quations last October :o
when I stepped into a minefield of political correctness
when I told a 'Nancy' who was looking for Women to go paddling with
and I said: 'Listen Sister- why would you want to go with a bunch of yappy dames, look :o around you Huney- look all all these Hunkey Guys-
who would rather wake up to a nice warm pink woman than a smelly goombah fishin' buddy . . .
The hi-jacked post counted up 11,000 views when Richard pulled the plug
and sent me to the fringes of innellect.
Off Topic, Calling All Women Canoers . . . page 7
all is revealed 8)

I've been thinking about it too,
the colour, a blue (or green)black, with ebony black trim bits . . .
that outrigger . . . sweet
Siren is a modernist, she likes asymmetrical compositions
and John, more homework . . .
Valentines 101, for men only . . . how did I do?

your client?
Siren1
8)

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Perchance Siren would like an Allegro Nakoma or Solitaire. I think she needs to take part in the building process.

No man made materials for her either. It must be wood; the very soul of life.

A canoe that you build has passion and is a part of you.

A canoe you buy is a thing, a trinket and without persona.

My Nakoma is 34 lbs, it can be less 8)

It currently is Valentine red but may be airbrushed something else in a couple of years. A girl has to change her makeup.


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Completely agree with that one. If it is to be truly spiritual, gotta build it yourself.


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:clap: Good one Kim ! :clap:

There are none as rewarding as the one you build for yourself.

A word of caution tho folks. Like Lay's potato chips, it's hard to stop at one. :lol:


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It is up to you. I await the deposit.

Oh yes, your weight. Need to know you know. :D

Asking too much? Hmmmm

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