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PostPosted: June 7th, 2007, 9:56 am 
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I'm building a cedar strip - very, very slowly. I've finished stripping, sanding and fairing the hull and am in the process of putting on some external stems. While I'm doing that I started looking at what type of epoxy and fiberglass to get... but what I really need to know is how much to buy.

The boat is 10 feet long, and I need 54 inches of fiberglass (6 oz cloth) at the center station.

Would 1 gallon of West 105 and .3 gallon of West 207 do it? IF I need more it seems so much cheaper to simply buy 2 gallons...

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I think one gal might be cutting it close. At least if you do just get 1 gal you will know how much was used on the outside and see then if you will have enough left for the inside.

Some resin can be saved by only doing one coat on the inside, this leaves a textured surface, but is lighter and less slipery.

Also you can use 4oz cloth on the inside to save some weight and resin, this is likely fine esp in a smaller canoe.


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Let me guess you're doing a kids boat? How old is your oldest now?

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Not a kids boat Al - a Dad and kid tandem to make the class 2 stuff we run together a little more exciting. More like a project to keep me busy when the kids are asleep in the evenings - much more fun than making furniture! I know I could have modified an old Impulse into a tandem, but I've wanted to design / make a stripper for a while.

Oldest just turned 4, so he's got a little way to go before he starts to solo. Heck, by the time he's ready maybe I'll be able to find a used Splash! Youngest is just 1 1/2 - so hopefully in another year she'll be able to sit still long enough to do a tandem run with me while the older one shows Mommy the lines down the river. Right now she keeps climbing out of the canoe...

Thanks dreamstream - 1 gallon it is... and I think I've got a little 105 / 205 sitting around from paddle making that I could use on the inside ends that would be covered by the airbags anyway if I do run out.


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Eran they'll be there before you know it. Gail's youngest daughter just completed her ORCAK moving water 1B solo, she's 8 years old!!! Wow!! :clap:
Aliesha our oldest who is now 12, is now the junoir member for both Team Rapid ( Rapid Media) & Team E ( Esquif Canoes).

So not only has canoeing been made easier for kids because of boats that have been designed for them. But also the instruction for solo boating, we're now teaching a whole new method that is way more simplfied then the old structure with the long stern corrections combined with all those draws and sweeps. The medthod is called the 2x4.

The 2x4 refers to the two forward strokes, on side and cross forward. The four is the elements that proivdes the control, timing, stoke postion, paddle angle & boat tllt.

How times have changed!!!!

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If the boat is for WW use I would not go with 4oz, I did this on a 15 footer and it ruptured on the inside on an Opeongo spring day.

I think it is more importaint to have the strength on the inside when it comes to impact resistance. Epoxy glass has little compressive strength so it is the inside that is under tensile conditions from an outside impact where it fails. On that note if I did another wood stripper that might see a bit of rough use I would be very tempted to lay an extra layer of glass on the botom inside from chine to chine.


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PostPosted: July 22nd, 2009, 4:17 pm 
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Boat is finally done - pictures attached here. We'll have to try it out in Michigan since we're moving in a week. Have some of the outfitting - but it is on the moving truck and will have to wait.


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Very, very cool! Congratulations. I look forward to seeing some pics of her in action!
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PostPosted: July 23rd, 2009, 9:26 pm 
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Thanks - I can't wait to stick two saddles in and get on the water. I've got to hurry up before the kids get any bigger, then it'll just be a solo boat!


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how much did you use in the end? looks good. have fun


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eranandrechek wrote:
We'll have to try it out in Michigan since we're moving in a week. Have some of the outfitting - but it is on the moving truck and will have to wait.



Michigan? Lemme guess your moving to Ann Arbor? Drop me a PM when you get here. Maybe we can hook up and paddle a little. Unfortunately, it'll be a drive for any good whitewater.

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PostPosted: July 24th, 2009, 4:05 pm 
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lennart wrote:
how much did you use in the end? looks good. have fun


Used about 80% of the gallon. Put 2 coats inside to leave the non-slip surface.


PK - Good guess, but no. East Lansing. I'll have to be content with the Pine and some of the other rivers like that unless we do a long drive.


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