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Author:  Dan. [ September 29th, 2009, 7:01 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Fiberglassing a Cedar Strip canoe.

The strips are already in place? How is he going to build stapleless?

Author:  Splake [ September 29th, 2009, 7:53 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Fiberglassing a Cedar Strip canoe.

Dan. wrote:
The strips are already in place? How is he going to build stapleless?


Yeah, I know. But there can always be 'the next one'. For that matter, you should be due to start on your next canoe Dan. :)

Author:  Jawihan [ September 29th, 2009, 8:10 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Fiberglassing a Cedar Strip canoe.

I have used tooth picks on my Wee Lassie to fill some nail holes as suggested in a couple of reference books-----never again---- due to the cross grain of the tooth picks, they show up terribly after finishing.
I would suggest not using tooth picks.
Btw, Rhaslam where did you find Durham's water based putty here in Canada. I haven't been able to find it here around Owen Sound.
James

Author:  RHaslam [ September 29th, 2009, 8:58 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Fiberglassing a Cedar Strip canoe.

My local hardware store carries it up here in Geraldton. It's a special place though, one of the last true family run hardware stores, carries everything from strings for a fiddle to septic tanks.

Author:  vette68 [ September 29th, 2009, 12:41 pm ]
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I want to thank everyone for their reply's on the post,
great reads!
Kevin.

Author:  Dan. [ September 29th, 2009, 9:48 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Fiberglassing a Cedar Strip canoe.

Splake wrote:
Dan. wrote:
The strips are already in place? How is he going to build stapleless?


Yeah, I know. But there can always be 'the next one'. For that matter, you should be due to start on your next canoe Dan. :)



Too much time spent paddling them. Also, since the members have teased me out of living at the rent's place I have lost my work-shop.

Looking to buy a place some time in the next 6-12 months. A workshop is a definate requirement.

.... I hope this doesn't spawn another thread with people pontificating how I live my life. ...

Actualy I kind of hope it does... I haven't been called a useless bag of shit for a while. ... :thumbup:

Author:  Battenkiller [ September 30th, 2009, 9:50 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Fiberglassing a Cedar Strip canoe.

vette68 wrote:
Can anyone link me to a great website, that has a step by step build, so I can refer to it time to time.


Kevin, I didn't link to this before since I hadn't gotten to the point you are starting at, but here's a link to my build blog for a boat I made last year. I've been meaning to finish it for a while (the blog, not the boat) but life kept getting in the way. Your post made me think of it, so I worked on it a bit today. At least now it's up to the part you are starting at.

Breakfast With BK

I wouldn't call it a "great website", but I tried to make some of the more confusing parts clear to a beginner. Hope it helps.

Author:  vette68 [ October 12th, 2009, 6:57 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Fiberglassing a Cedar Strip canoe.

Finally have gotten around to posting some images of this project I have bought.
I had bought this as seen in the first image, still on the mold, but with the staples out. Previous own had used white/cream colour wood filler that I'm now having to deal with.

Author:  vette68 [ October 12th, 2009, 7:01 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Fiberglassing a Cedar Strip canoe.

The last set of images are reversed, the image with me standing beside the canoe is when I first brought it home, the rest are after 100 grid sand paper to the left side of the canoe, just starting to tackle the other side today.

Author:  vette68 [ October 12th, 2009, 7:01 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Fiberglassing a Cedar Strip canoe.

The last set of images are reversed, the image with me standing beside the canoe is when I first brought it home, the rest are after 100 grid sand paper to the left side of the canoe, just starting to tackle the other side today.

Author:  RHaslam [ October 12th, 2009, 7:12 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Fiberglassing a Cedar Strip canoe.

It's hard for me to make out what is going on in that picture of the stem. Is the stem raised up for quite a ways down the canoe? Is that why there is so much filler there? It looks like you could probably plane it fair to the hull until it takes the turn.

Author:  vette68 [ October 12th, 2009, 7:21 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Fiberglassing a Cedar Strip canoe.

It is running flat to the bottom of the canoe. He had alot of filler in differant places that really had no need for it. Those areas like the stems, I'm slowly removing it. Then standing back thinking it over,,,,,,
Not trying to cut the original builder up at all, I'm sure for my first build if I would have made the same mistakes. But now that it's my project, I'm going to work the best with what I have. It honestly is a very good build, just some small visual areas to fix up.
For $250.00 & and being my first cedar strip, I like the investment !!!

Wondering, because of the white wood filler, should I might think about staining instead of keeping it natural?

Author:  RHaslam [ October 13th, 2009, 6:17 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Fiberglassing a Cedar Strip canoe.

i just had a good look at the picture with you and the canoe in it. perhaps it is the angle of the shot, but it sure looks like those stems are protruding. once planed down, the stems should naturally flow with the shape of the canoe. in your case, it looks like they rise above the surface quite a bit before making the turn.

As for the wood filler, personally, I wouldn't worry about it. It's a canoe, it's going to get scratched and beaten around. I would just give the entire hull a sanding with a palm sander. The excess filler will be gone then. Don't like the looks of the very orange filler, looks like epoxy was used, good luck sanding that.

Author:  frozentripper [ October 13th, 2009, 9:21 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Fiberglassing a Cedar Strip canoe.

Quote:
Wondering, because of the white wood filler, should I might think about staining instead of keeping it natural?


Stain, if it is transparent, will still show that white wood filler. Opaque stain will act like a paint, hiding everything and maybe it's better to just use a durable, scuff-resistant enamel paint that will result in a color that complements the wood tones in the interior (like the enamel paint on cedar and canvas canoes results in attractive looks inside and out).

Author:  vette68 [ October 13th, 2009, 2:20 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Fiberglassing a Cedar Strip canoe.

Yes I see what you are meaning with the stems, I'll plane them out. I'll have to do some investigating on some finished canoes to see the correct angles for this.
The redish wood filler turns out better then the white that was used, as you can see where I used it on the staple holes. What I have been doing is while it is still wet I sand it, that way some of the cedar sawdust gets mixed in with it, and any excess is sanded away.

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