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 Post subject: canoe for kids
PostPosted: January 21st, 2010, 4:15 pm 
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Hi there, I'm having trouble choosing a design. Would like to build
a canoe so my young ones 9 and 7 can start tandem, and I could solo.
Plans for a DUMOINE are available but am thinking it's a little big.
I would like to build an OSPREY but I read that solo designs don't
make good tandems.Would like to hear some thoughts on this.
More of a river run design is where my interests lie. Thanks.


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 Post subject: Re: canoe for kids
PostPosted: January 21st, 2010, 5:08 pm 
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You can outfit a solo canoe for tandem for really little kids not over say six.

However your kids are growing and one of them perhaps significantly so soon.

I have an Osprey sized solo and while the bow is quite flared and full I dont think the littler kid will be comfortable for long.

I think a small tandem is far better and will last them a long time, and you can always solo a tandem. You cant tandem a solo forever.

take a look at these.

http://www.carryingplacecanoeworks.on.c ... strip.html


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 Post subject: Re: canoe for kids
PostPosted: January 21st, 2010, 9:43 pm 
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littleredcanoe thanks for the info. carrying place is not that far
from where I live so will be checking them out soon I hope.


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 Post subject: Re: canoe for kids
PostPosted: January 22nd, 2010, 2:29 pm 
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How about a Prospector Ranger: http://www.bearmountainboats.com/onlinestore/product_info.php?cPath=21&products_id=33

or Bob's Special: http://www.bearmountainboats.com/15-0BobsSpecial.htm

or a Mattawa: http://www.greenval.com/mattawa.html

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 Post subject: Re: canoe for kids
PostPosted: January 22nd, 2010, 9:12 pm 
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splake , I was looking at those sites last night and
narrowed my choice down to the Ranger or Mattawa. Its cool you
also recommend them , It means I'm on the right track. I'll probably
go with the smaller RANGER. Thanks for replying.


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 Post subject: Re: canoe for kids
PostPosted: January 23rd, 2010, 9:38 pm 
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To be fair, I haven't tried any of them. :-?

I am a big fan of John Winters designs and own a kevlar Temagami that I love. If my kids ever grow up (as in I don't have to spend all my winter free time in hockey rinks), then I really want to build an Osprey. I've heard from a number of folks who have built a Bob's Special and love it. The one canoe I've built was a Prospector from the offsets in the original Canoe Craft. The Prospector just about dances, but taht means it takes a little more effort to keep it on track in a cross wind. The Ranger has a similar heritage and is a bit smaller so it would be a better fit for the kids, but I just took a quick look at beam and length the other day, didn't look at the rocker.

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 Post subject: Re: canoe for kids
PostPosted: January 24th, 2010, 12:23 am 
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Out of those designs It would be between the Ranger and the Bob if I had to pick one. But given you said you wanted something with more river running I'd pick the Ranger.

Your kids are at a great age to introduce them to moving water, You'll be surprised at how quickly they'll pick things up.
Our girls were 9 and 11 when they paddled their own boat down the Dumoine River at moderate to moderate high water levels. They paddled a boat that was a little longer than the Ranger but the same idea in terms of boat design. They paddled all the paddlable class II/III white water with no issues, even catching all their intended eddies. On the flat sections their boat was lightly loaded with one big pack and had no problems keeping up with the adults boats. Yep the Ranger would be my pick.

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 Post subject: Re: canoe for kids
PostPosted: January 24th, 2010, 12:15 pm 
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Splake and ALLEN thanks for replying its good to get some
feedback from other paddlers. My only canoe is a 17 prospector
from Nova Craft which I like a lot , although I don't have much
experience with other designs,mostly 16' prospectors. I began thinking an asymmetrical design would be nice fur my second canoe
and those John Winters canoes look good , have good reviews and
plans are available. But for what I want in a boat I think the RANGER
is my best bet. IF I were buying ... I would seriously look into the
Pocket Canyon I know my kids would have a major challenge but
I bet I would love it. Anyhow this is my first build so I'm sure there
is more questions to come. Thanks Again.. mark.


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 Post subject: Re: canoe for kids
PostPosted: January 24th, 2010, 1:01 pm 
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I think the Pocket ( as good of a boat as it is ) would present a lot of issues with kids that young. For one the weight.....its going the be heavier then a cedar boat the same size.
The bigger issues would be the depth of the boat given their shorter reach, also the rocker.....its a lot and it maybe to frustrating for paddlers that young while trying to track the boat on flat sections.

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 Post subject: Re: canoe for kids
PostPosted: January 26th, 2010, 11:22 am 
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I stumbled across this link to wooden canoe plans available.

http://www.wcha.org/build_restore/plans.html


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