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PostPosted: July 28th, 2019, 9:05 pm 
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Goh Iromoto, for his artistic style.

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PostPosted: July 29th, 2019, 8:09 am 
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I've noticed a distinctive trend in the last ten years, whereby the focus of many canoe or winter trips is the video or social media content, not the trip itself. With the advent of potential social media fame, it seems to be the new thing, particularly with the cult like fan base that builds up around the self promoters.

I've dabbled in it, but find it way to distracting from actually enjoying a trip. I would much rather read a trip report with excellent pictures and information than labour through a video. I don't think I have watched an entire video from any of the people mentioned. But I'm older and curmudgeonly.

As for the comments about booze, etc....chillax. One dude on the internet who has a drink will not encourage the vast hordes of pre and post pubescent almost human units to become raging alcoholics. In fact, most of the so called younger humans will have hit the bottle and worse due to the influence of their other young biped friends, long before they will turn off any youtube video in the first 30 seconds that stars old white dudes that canoe.


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PostPosted: July 29th, 2019, 8:31 am 
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frozentripper wrote:
Goh Iromoto, for his artistic style.


The film he did with Ray Mears "We Belong to It" is what got me interested in canoeing....


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PostPosted: July 31st, 2019, 6:28 am 
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I have to agree with Rob, two of my last four trips I recorded nothing and I enjoyed it. Having said that the ONLY videos I've ever been able to watch start to finish is Hoop's (Savant & WCPP). I'm probably wrong, but to me it looks like some are after views & likes more than reporting their trip or sharing info with people new to backcountry camping. There's Wintertrekker then everyone one else. But in fairness when Hoop drives 2 hrs north he's in the Savant system (I'm guessing), when most of the rest of us here drive 2hrs north were in APP lol. So area and remoteness certainly help likes and views.

I do kinda like Jonathan's stuff, he seems like a genuine conservationist and doesn't seem to mind sharing info, but again can't seem to get thru all of a video (probably my ADD and not him lol). I did just use your Noganosh map on Avenza Jonathan.. THANKS A TON !!!! for that bro :). I have my own channel and hate it. I had it private at the beginning but friends & family across N.A. made it hard in granting access. So I made it public & changed the name to my user name here and it generates ZERO traffic.

I do take heat when I don't video a trip so I can't say I'll stop taping, but it's nice not worrying about capturing ever moment. And when the day comes when I no longer have my travelling partner (my dog) looking back on these videos will be priceless and I'll wish I did more.


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PostPosted: July 31st, 2019, 6:52 am 
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As just mentioned above the difference between amateurish and pro is knowing to leave things out. The Jennings Explore videos are an excellent example of thought and edits. To the lengthy video makers when in doubt throw it out. Shorter is better. Coles notes not Lawrence of Arabia. Youre only as good as the weakest shot or clip. Not many will watch a 25 minute giggle. 5 tight minutes is better. Whew that feels good, just hope it doesn't sound preachy :)

Thanks to those that added some names I wasn't familiar with to go peak about.


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PostPosted: July 31st, 2019, 10:01 am 
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If you are looking for information, interesting reading and the best damn canoe trip reports on the internet, look at Myccr's True North. His reports are extremely professional and interesting, with a ton of thought and detail. I anticipate any new report he does, and he's done some doozies. No video, and I hope he keeps it that way.

https://albinger.me/


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PostPosted: July 31st, 2019, 1:49 pm 
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If you are looking for information, interesting reading and the best damn canoe trip reports on the internet, look at Myccr's True North. His reports are extremely professional and interesting, with a ton of thought and detail. I anticipate any new report he does, and he's done some doozies. No video, and I hope he keeps it that way.

https://albinger.me/


I took a few minutes checking out the suggested channels and it affirmed what I have noticed when it comes to videos about canoe tripping. Paddlers would rather be paddling than watching paddling videos. If they are watching they want condensed and real info.

I also could not help but notice that when Northern Scavenger had a "Off Grid Cabin" video that it received 20-30 times their normal views. The same shows up for bushcraft or winter camping. Even Kevin Callan has dismal showings when compared to what usually happens with big names on youtube. Let's paddle!!

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PostPosted: July 31st, 2019, 1:59 pm 
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Seeing Rhaslam's comments prompts me to note that his trip reports of the Geraldton High School Outers, all the way back to 2003, should be included in this discussion. Videos are nice but his detailed narratives with a few photos make for great reading. And all the time you just marvel at what those kids accomplished.
I do enjoy Backcountry Angling Ontario even though I don't fish much when paddling. Seeing video of places I've paddled like the Steele River and Lake Superior coastline makes for good memories.


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PostPosted: August 1st, 2019, 8:34 pm 
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Experienced paddlers often seem to like shorter documentary-style videos that give a taste of the route without a narrative or characters.

But one in a hundred campers might be considered an experienced paddler. The other 99 seem to like a character-based narrative, not a predominantly factual documentary. They relate to humans and storytelling better, so if one's goal is to encourage the average person to paddle and appreciate nature, this is probably the approach to take. Or better yet, just produce the content that feels natural and enjoyable to oneself and let similar-minded people consume it. The YouTube algorithm will figure out who those people are.

If you look at Joe Robinet with way beyond 1MM subscribers, the videos are long, have a relaxed pace, are almost all monologue or dialogue, plus a little bushcraft. Bushcraft is extremely popular but it's really a different genre from tripping.

You certainly can't please everybody.

steve.of.london wrote:
Youre only as good as the weakest shot or clip.

That's a good quote. Reminds me of one from Lanny McDonald's autobiography: "You're only as good as your last shift."

And to stick with the thread's topic, I'll add Uncut Angling. A bit bro-ish I guess, but super entertaining, high quality, and very educational in terms of fishing.

I find I only read trip reports if it's a route that I plan on taking, but I really enjoy Rob and True North's reports in those scenarios.

@wilsauceez hahah not to worry...I know attention is hard to hold and time is precious. Glad you enjoyed the map! I searched your username and nothing came up on YouTube BTW.

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PostPosted: August 2nd, 2019, 4:44 am 
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@Jonathan ... Sooooo I just realized it Wilsauce'ez not Wilsauceez don't even know my own channel lmao. FYI my hiking videos are better than my canoeing. I've tired more remote places for canoe trips but my best friend is not a bushwacker lol and I'm not a director or editor or a star or basically anything lol.

I watched your Steel river vid yesterday as a matter of fact. Can't say I didn't skim ahead a couple of times but I tired. You mentioned crimping off the barbs when fishing with kids and dogs. This is something I do all the time because of my dog. I've hooks myself so many times in the past 40 yrs it's almost second nature, but to hook my dog OMG i'd feel like such an IDIOT. THATS the kind of info people need.

Maybe someday I'll see you on the water. Again thxs... the map was a huge help. Going back in Sept and doing the bottom part of the park and I'll be relying on your map again.

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PostPosted: August 5th, 2019, 7:26 pm 
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I think it's interesting that two of my favourite youtubers are on this forum, one of which is posting in this thread.

Backcountry Angling Ontario and Explore the Backcountry.

I got started on youtube camping videos by watching Joe Robinet back in the days when he tried to eat a squirrel that his dog killed and I eventually pushed off from watching him around the time he hooked up with Shawn James from My Self Reliance.

I don't know what changed at that point, but I just got bored with him. It's now at the point where I've told Youtube to stop recommending Joe Robinet to me.

There are a lot of other good channels out there too which deserve mention.

Jason Eke
Chris Prouse (I find she is over-produced, although she is a videographer, so...)
Cedarhaus Films
Jim Baird
KGDblade
Mike Prout
Alter Eco Adventures

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PostPosted: August 6th, 2019, 8:26 am 
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Favorite female youtuber is Homemade Wanderlust... about thru-hiking long distances over many days, not canoeing. Still, she seems to tell it like it is while out there, with some gear reviews and good vids esp if yawl like hearin' suthern style.

Here's the first of the Continental Divide Trail thru-hike, Mexico to Canada, seen 'em all. The rest, too much for me to keep up with.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTg0mqArHzg

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PostPosted: August 9th, 2019, 11:51 pm 
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CampingChristina gets'er done for sure. One tough gal. Saw Bill Mason't 'Water Walker' when it was first released. It just blew me away.


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PostPosted: August 10th, 2019, 5:24 am 
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frozentripper wrote:
Favorite female youtuber is Homemade Wanderlust... about thru-hiking long distances over many days, not canoeing. Still, she seems to tell it like it is while out there, with some gear reviews and good vids esp if yawl like hearin' suthern style.

Here's the first of the Continental Divide Trail thru-hike, Mexico to Canada, seen 'em all. The rest, too much for me to keep up with.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTg0mqArHzg


Oh yeah - I've watched both her AT and PCT series. You know it's serious when you have to have new shoes mailed to a checkpoint.

BTW, back in the early 70's my dad, uncle and a bunch of others used to hunt deer near Bancroft at a camp/farm they called Wapata. Long shot, but wondered if you've ever heard of it.


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PostPosted: August 10th, 2019, 9:39 am 
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scratchypants wrote:

Oh yeah - I've watched both her AT and PCT series. You know it's serious when you have to have new shoes mailed to a checkpoint.


This is actually pretty common for thru-hikers. Not only do you wear out your shoes but your feet get larger as the trip goes on so typically the next pair at the next supply drop is a size or more larger....


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