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I`ve got one of Jack Richardson`s Lakefield`s, it`s a 1964 Cree. It needs some TLC and some time but I do have plans to restore it. But I`ve got other paddling projects on the go, and one such project should open a new page in canoeing history.


Al, did your Richardson have a keel? If so, what kind of hardware was used inside the canoe to attach it? The Cree should be a 15 ft boat, right? Yours should have western red cedar planking which is cut to overlap and not show any gaps between planks, right? If the seats are original, they should be laced with rawhide, right?.


As I said this boat needs some TLC..... at this point there is no canvas on it and it needs some wood work. The keel has been removed but you can see the rusted screws and the water mark on the planking where the keel use to be. The hardware is hard to desrcibe, there are these rust metal flat plates on the ribs that the screws went through. Yes the boat is 15'. Yes the planking is cut not to have any gaps or goring. Yes the seats are laced in rawhide. The Lakefield plate is still on the bow deck with the model number stamped on the inside bow stem.

I have a friend only 10min. away, his name is Evert Kluwer of Sunrise boat works and who does a lot of restoration and is very crafted at his work , I`ll be getting him to help me with this project.

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I'm real glad you were able to connect with someone who can put your boat into production. I think the reason we haven't seen one in the past is that it's a big gamble on the production side that there'd be enough volume in sales to offset the development. As a consumer of kid boats, the part that is most disturbing is the rate at which they outgrow them. Af last year's Canoecopia, son Brendan spent most of his time helping out the folks from Liquid Logic. At the end of the show, they offered him a Scooter at a price we cculdn't say no to. Back in March during the show, the Scooter fit him like a glove. Even halfway through this summer, it was getting hard for him to fit into the boat. We had to "bump" it because his feet were so jammed up in there it was painful. Going to have to get him something bigger for next year.That shouldn't be as much of a problem for canoes, but it's a factor the manufacturer has to think about. .



I`m not concerned about the cost of this project and I know I`m putting a few dollars up front to move the project along. But to me this project isn`t about money, its about the progress of canoeing and giving the opportunity to kids to develop w/w canoing skills at a much earlier age in their life. At this point its only canoeing families that have asked for a Splash, but who know how many we`ll end up making... time will tell ! :wink:

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The hardware is hard to desrcibe, there are these rust metal flat plates on the ribs that the screws went through.

That's what I thought. It was this clue that first helped me confirm the original cedar/canvas I had was a Richardson. The plates you descried should have a little tab that's been bent down from the flat plate. The tab grips into the wood to keep it from turning, there's a machine screw thread that drops down into a hole that Richardson put into the ribs. The keel was then screwed on from underneath. These tabs are fairly common in modern furniture, the problem with them was that they were never intended for outdoor use and they rusted badly. They also put a fairly large hole in the bottom of the rib, right in a spot where you'd want to keep as much strength as possible. I think it could be categorized as a good idea in principle, but not so good in practice. My original canoe no longer had the original deck plate or other identifies, so I had no idea who made it. Back then I used to spend a fair bit of time with Augey Llok who started the Coldwater Canoe company, most of which now belongs to Clint Todd who still makes the Llok paddles as well as Sturgeon River Canoes. Augey had a canoe in for recanvasing that was very similar to mine, but still had all the identifiers. What stuck out to me was the keel fasteners which were the same in both boats. As far as I know, nobody else attached keels this way, perhaps because they recognized the shortcomings.


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Like you, I've also got a design in mind that has never been done before. My design's been on the mental drawing board for a good many years but I haven't had any luck in finding someone who wants to put it into production. Unlike you, I'm not about to reveal the idea in a public forum though :-).


Although I`ve revaeled the idea here, I haven`t revealed the the design, only a hand full of people know or have seen the plug. I should have some boats ready for later this fall and in time for the start of pool sessions so the kids can get the basic understanding of the boat and to build on their core solo skills in the safety of the indoor pools over the winter.

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It a wonderful idea Al. The Jackson Fun 1 has made kayaking possible for even younger kids to start developing fine skills without being encombered by a large boat....my daughter is 9 but is too small for the Evo or any of the smaller women designs...she loves her Fun 1.... now the youngest will have a chance to slowly develop canoe control while she is young in a boat that feels right to her...... confidence starts with having a boat that you can feel. I am very much looking forward to getting an introduction to the Splash.......bravo to you and the design team for stepping up and providing a solid avenue to get our kids tuned into OC 1.


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Thanks Gail !

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Rolf do you know if they make thes tabs in brass ?

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Rolf do you know if they make thes tabs in brass ?


Don't know for sure, but I don't think so. Unless you really want the canoe to retain the original equipment, I wouldn't recommend using those plates. Personally, I'm not partial to keels, so I didn't put one on the cedar canvas when I restored it. I was considering replacing all the ribs that had the keel screws, but didn't. None broke while I used it, but I'd guess these would be more prone to breaking than the others.


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Siren, I don't mind folks giving the boat a try.

I doubt I've still got the paper plans or table of offsets, but the forms are in the rafters and if anyone _really_ desperately wants to build one, I wouldn't mind someone tracing the forms for their own use.


I may just take you up on that......

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I may just take you up on that......


Dan, here's a clip I recently posted on YouTube of the Richardson replica in use
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4RJAeP7pDI
That'll give you an idea of how the boat handles.

I expect to be spending most of the summer at our farm up beside the Ottawa River and the canoe will probably be there for the duration. If you're serios about building one, the least you can do is spend a bit of time using it to be sure that it's really worth your while. Most of the footage you see in the video was taken in places nearby the farm. We're about parallel to Blacks Rapid.


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