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Author:  Lynne Shuttleworth [ December 23rd, 2009, 12:14 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Albany River trip planning

Voyageur: Fantastic info to know. No, nothing is arranged yet....All plans are just ideas at this point, but fun to think about as winter sets in. Will get in touch with your dude you mention, for sure.

Allan: No, not wanting to die, we are definitely not planning to paddle along James Bay....very scary, and i have heard about people just disappearing forever while trying to do it!

Mac: Actually we were hoping to get a freighter canoe from Fort Albany to Moosoonee. But of course have not looked into this yet.....I expect that flight would be pretty expensive and we are trying to keep costs down by not flying. However, perhaps that is the only way to get out of Fort Albany.....Anyway, yes, want to see Moosoonee; years ago, my friend and I bailed at Moose River Crossing at the end of a Missinaibi trip and trained from there south..(the river was really shallow, but that is a whole other story..)

Thanks!

Author:  Mac [ December 23rd, 2009, 12:40 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Albany River trip planning

If your timing is right you might be able to get onto one of the barges that moves freight up and down the coast from Moosonee. A bit of a long shot but also a low cost option.

A freighter canoe would work for you also if you can connect with the right guy in Fort Albany.
As Allan has pointed out, paddling the coast is not such a good option.

Yeah! The lower Moose is a bit shallow some years. But you can always walk it when it gets like that. :wink:

Author:  jdrocks [ December 23rd, 2009, 8:32 pm ]
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i was on the albany this past august from the misehkow to petawanga exiting up petawa creek. the river was extremely high and fast, and the portages on this section showed little signs of use this season, the exception being the miminiska lake portage. expect some very challenging conditions in high water on this river. you need accurate portage info for this river as i think it would be very difficult to ferry from one side to the other in the water i saw in august.

we saw no other canoes in this area, but then we didn't see another canoe on the whole 21 day trip.

Author:  Rick [ December 23rd, 2009, 10:06 pm ]
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I was wondering how you made out jdrocks. I'd like to hear about the Petawa and your trip in general. Any reports or pictures?

With regards to the take outs. Many are scary close to the beginning of the rapids / falls.

Once I ended up on the wrong side of the river and had to drag my canoe way back up river because a failed ferry would have been a wet death.

Author:  Voyageur [ December 23rd, 2009, 10:55 pm ]
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Lynne: Further to my suggestion re forwarding your supplies to Fort Hope and/or Martin Falls, I checked the Canada Post website. You can post parcels to yourself via General Delivery known internationally as poste restante.

I copied the reg's (below) from: http://www.canadapost.ca/Tools/pg/manual/pgpostbox-e.asp

2.3 General Delivery
General Delivery is a service offered when Customers cannot receive mail through any other available free mode of delivery. General Delivery is also offered to the travelling public for a period of up to four (4) months. Unless the General Delivery is considered the prime mode of delivery for the Customer (for example, if Canada Post does not otherwise have a free mode of delivery available in the area) the General Delivery service will be subject to the same terms and conditions, including prices, applicable to the Convenience Postal Box service.

NOTE: In Canada, the term “GENERAL DELIVERY” is used in English and “POSTE RESTANTE” in French. The international term, however, is always “POSTE RESTANTE”.

Author:  jdrocks [ December 24th, 2009, 7:26 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Albany River trip planning

Rick wrote:
I was wondering how you made out jdrocks. I'd like to hear about the Petawa and your trip in general. Any reports or pictures?

With regards to the take outs. Many are scary close to the beginning of the rapids / falls.

Once I ended up on the wrong side of the river and had to drag my canoe way back up river because a failed ferry would have been a wet death.


chuck will have a trip report up eventually, he's busy with other things right now. plenty of photos.

regarding petawa, it's possible that no one had gone through since you were there and it was clogged with blowdowns and sweepers. it took 14 hours to cut and track our way through. hard work, but we had a pair of the big corona saws along and these really help when you find yourself blocked on land or water. auger looked good when we got there.

in that high august water, both ends of the albany portages were bad and in one case there were big standing waves below the falls for 1km and no way around. great care required at the upper landings also.

not only did we not see any paddlers, but no one had gone through much of our route this season. portages are closing back up. very slow going on the misehkow as the class rapids could not be run or lined and we had to cut our way through some very old high water portages. we went for a little swim in there at a place you know well. nobody died, that's about all i can say.

the lower landing on the miminiska portage (not the river portage) has so much spilled fuel from the cached drums there that you can smell it from 100m. should be reported to the MNR.

my trip notes and maps going to the Wabakimi Project for their reference.

Author:  Lynne Shuttleworth [ December 24th, 2009, 8:59 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Albany River trip planning

Guys, this is sounding like a real adventure....I suspect that since this past summer all rivers were extra-high, for summer 2010 the Albany may not be as high if we do not have as much rain.....Thanks for the tips. I understand about not being able to ferry across if the current is so strong, so we will have to be careful about getting off the river before portages....And looks like bringing some type of chain saw might be a good idea (though that does add to the weight, eh.....) Good idea to mail food in, though if there are local stores it would be easier to buy, especially if anyone has any fresh fruit and veg (which are rare on long canoe trips except for wild berries and mushrooms....) .....Hopefully we will be able to catch some fish on this river too!

Author:  RHaslam [ December 24th, 2009, 9:50 am ]
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i lived in Fort Hope for a couple of years. Unless things have changed greatly, the chances of getting fresh produce are almost non-existant. The store is large, and has a selection of things, but expect to pay anywhere from two to three three times normal food costs.
I haven't been in the store in Ogoki, but my understanding is that there was a limited selection. The post office will probably hold anything you mail in, but it would be a good idea to phone them first, same goes with someone at the band council to make sure everything is cool with coming on the reserve.

Author:  Rick [ December 24th, 2009, 11:42 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Albany River trip planning

jdrocks wrote:
.....we went for a little swim in there at a place you know well. nobody died, that's about all i can say.


If this is the place where I think you're referring, I hope the swim was at the put in and not the take out. Did you find the take out river left - it's marked river right in the Canoe Atlas of the Little North. To give a indication of the water levels when I was through there, I had to scramble up a 5`muddy embankment to get to the trail.

jdrocks wrote:
the lower landing on the miminiska portage (not the river portage) has so much spilled fuel from the cached drums there that you can smell it from 100m. should be reported to the MNR.


This port is a mess. I had to clean up the put in of fish line and hooks so Casey (woof, woof) did not get a hook in his paws. The other end at the take out is grave yard for all manner of debris - from snow machine parts to all sorts of other metal garbage.

Author:  jdrocks [ December 24th, 2009, 4:26 pm ]
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Lynne Shuttleworth wrote:
Guys, this is sounding like a real adventure....I suspect that since this past summer all rivers were extra-high, for summer 2010 the Albany may not be as high if we do not have as much rain.....Thanks for the tips. I understand about not being able to ferry across if the current is so strong, so we will have to be careful about getting off the river before portages....And looks like bringing some type of chain saw might be a good idea (though that does add to the weight, eh.....)



you don't need a chain saw, but we always carry decent hand saws and an axe.

as far as high water, you just never know what the season will bring.

Author:  CIIcanoe [ December 25th, 2009, 7:59 pm ]
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jdrocks,

I haven't been on this forum for a while. Like you said I've been busy but I've written about 40 pages so far about our trip to the "Little North" from this past August/Sept.

I will put it up on another blog like the other reports.

Chuck

http://www.ciicanoe.com/

Author:  simonbee [ December 28th, 2009, 10:01 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Albany River trip planning

I ran a section of the Albany a couple of years ago from Lake Onasburg to Fort Hope took us 13 days with one lay over day. I have a trip report that I could forward to you if you are still interested, of course it is only a partial section of the river. We had high water and faced a healthy insect population on this trip, fishing was excellent, many big lakes to cross, not many rapids and a few scenic water falls those are my lasting impression of the Albany.

There was a store in Fort Hope but it was poorly supplied I did not look at the prices since this was the end of our trip but I would guess it to be very expensive and might not have what you want. If I was to do your trip I would have my supplies flown in. There are regular resupply flights going out of Pickle Lake into Fort Hope and many other outline posts I would try to coordinate my resupply with some of those flights. I believe North Star Air Ltd is one of the companies that does some of the weekly filth into Fort Hope.

Author:  Lynne Shuttleworth [ December 28th, 2009, 10:23 am ]
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Sure, Simon, I would be interested in reading your trip journal of that stretch of the Albany. Useful to know it took you 13 days from Lake Osnaburgh to Fort Hope, and useful to know about the food situation. Thanks!

P.S. Guys (and any girls reading this): My trip-planning partner, who has departed today for winter camping (!!!), reminded me to mention here that we have a confirmed crew of 4, with 4 possible additions. But we are also open to hearing from anyone else who would seriously like to join us. We are aiming for a crew of 8.

Author:  CGodin94 [ August 5th, 2016, 4:29 pm ]
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Hello,
I've been planning a canoe trip down the Albany River for quite a while now. We are planning to start in Hearst and make our way down to Fort Albany. I've been doing extent searching in order to find some information on routes to partake, camping areas, as well as rapids to look out for; but none to find. I've been planning to do it mid September. Any information of any kind would be beyond helpful! Thank you!

Author:  NS_Ben [ May 30th, 2020, 3:28 pm ]
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Hi Everyone,

Thanks for all of the great info! I'm hoping to do this trip as well in September from Osnaburgh down to Fort Albany. I'm planning for about four week right now; in your experience will that be enough time or woulr five be safer?

@CGoding94 and Lynn, how did you both find taking the trais back and forth? Did Air Creebec work out for you from FA to Moosonee?

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