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PostPosted: March 30th, 2005, 11:51 am 
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I've recently gone back and read through the Alberta Posts and Routes.
Looks as though the knowlegde we have of our Alberta Rivers is extensive even though it is not reflected by our reports in the Routes Section.

As a future reference for Alberta Paddlers please make a list of the Alberta Rivers you've paddled so we know who to contact for info.

Here is my Alberta List
Milk River (Town of Milk River to Writing-on-Stone)
North Saskatchewan (Saunders to Rocky Mtn House)
North Saskatchewan (Drayton Valley to Devon)
North Saskatchewan (entire lenght)
Athabasca (Jasper to Morrow's Peak)
Athabasca (Ft.McMurray to Ft.Chip)
Clearwater (Upstream from Fort McMurray up to Christina River)
Clearwater (Contact Rapids to Ft.McMurray)
Muskeg River (PTI camp to Athabasca River)
MacKay River (Aoster Road to Ft.MacKay)
Wild Hay (??? to group site)
Bow River (Lake Louise to Banff)
Bow River (Ghost Dam to Cochrane)
Bow River (Cochrane to Bowness Park)
Elbow River (Allen Bill Pond to Bragg Creek)
Kananaskis (Widow Maker to Bow River)
McLeod River (above and below Hwy 40)
Belly River (South of Hwy 5 to Hwy800)
Waterton River (Muskinonge Lake (Hwy 6 to Waterton Reservoir)
Oldman River ( Fort McLeod to Coaldale)
Wandering River
Athabasca River (Upper section including Becker's Rapids)

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PostPosted: March 30th, 2005, 12:02 pm 
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And we'd love to get some information entered in the routes section on some of these trips.

However ...

If anyone is thinking of adding one of these routes to that section, it might be worth hanging on just a little bit. We're getting close with the new version of CCR and the method of entering new routes is a bit simpler. Also much easier to upload photos for these routes.

But we'd like to get some route descriptions, trip journals and photos posted for some of the other areas of Canada. We're still a bit Ontario-centric in this area.


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PostPosted: April 8th, 2005, 6:24 pm 
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Just the rivers.......
Pembina
Sturgeon
Lobstick
Whitemud Creek
Modeste Creek
NorthSaskachewan(Nordegg to Victoria Settlement)
Blackstone
Milk River(Whiskeygap to Milk River townsite)
Red Deer(Ya ha tin da area to Sundre)
(Dickson dam to Dinosour Provincial Park)
Athabasca(Emmerson lake to Berland river)
McLeod(Steepers to the Rec area)
Battleriver(Ferrypointlanding to Roslind bridge)
Panther
Brazeau(SmallBoy's camp to Cardinal lake)
Kananaskis(through canoe meadows
and in BC
White
Bull

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PostPosted: April 10th, 2005, 6:05 pm 
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Here's the rivers I have done:

Athabasca (Fort McMurray to Bridge to Nowhere)
Clearwater (Contact Rapids to Fort McMurray)
Mackay (Dover SAGD Bridge to Fort Mackay)
Muskeg (PTI camp to Athabasca River)
Christina (Jackfish River Bridge on 881 to Chard (Green) Bridge)
Bow (Lake Louise to Banff)
Bow (Mosquito Creek to Highway 93)
Bath Creek (Hwy 1 to Bow River)
Kananaskis (Canoe Meadows to Seebe)
Elbow (Allen Bill Pond to Bragg Creek)
Sheep (Gorge Creek to Turner Valley)
Waterton (Hwy 6 to Range Road 28-2a Bridge)
Crowsnest (Frank Slide to Lundbreck Falls)
Crowsnest (below Lundbreck Falls to Reservoir)
Oldman (Rapids below Three Rivers Dam)
Milk (Town of Milk River to Writing-on-Stone)
North Saskatchewan (Saunders to Rocky Mountain House National Historic Site)

BC
Stikine (Upper)

Saskatchewan
Churchill (sections)

Northwest Territotiries
Nahanni


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PostPosted: April 10th, 2005, 6:34 pm 
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North Sask - Nordegg to Rocky
Bow - Louise to Banff, Cochrane to a ways SE of Calgary
Red Deer - Most of it from Ya Ha Tinda to Dinasaur PP
Old Man - From near Pincher to Ft MacLeod (before the dam was in)
Milk - Milk River to Writing on Stone
Kananaskis - but only in a 'yak
Parts of others

It seems most of them have been travelled by others here.

Most of this was done 20-30 years ago other than a few trips on the North Sask, where we will be on the May long. Last year was my first back at it on longer (7+ day) trips. Am reseaching for a trip next summer for a duration of 2 weeks or so.

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PostPosted: April 11th, 2005, 2:50 am 
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Alberta really has got some lovely rivers through a great variety of terrain. But it's a bit disappointing that one of Alberta's most historically important rivers seems to be a little neglected by canoers (at least on this posting/forum).

What about the Peace River? What it lacks in excitment it more than makes up for in grandeur.

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PostPosted: April 14th, 2005, 9:23 am 
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I'll add Wolf R, Sand R, Beaver R, and the Athabasca from Shell Landing to Chip.


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PostPosted: April 14th, 2005, 3:10 pm 
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[quote="anasol"]I'll add Wolf R, Sand R, Beaver R, and the Athabasca from Shell Landing to Chip.[/quote]

That's where I'm hope to go next year.......north and east of Edmonton. They're spring time runs are they not?

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PostPosted: April 14th, 2005, 3:27 pm 
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Todd and I did Wolf/Sand in June a couple of years ago. Wolf had just enough water to float the boat - sometimes - but Sand was okay. An awful lot of obstacles on Wolf R, but it's nice country. Sand R is okay.

That was a very low-water year. Things might have improved a bit.

Beaver R is a nice if unspectacular run - there's a 4-hr stretch that ends up near home, one little Class I just before the end. If you put in at Beaver Crossing (Cold Lake), you can paddle into Saskatchewan and the Churchill R system.


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PostPosted: April 15th, 2005, 1:06 am 
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Oh - did I mention the Sand River is okay?

Sheesh...


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PostPosted: April 21st, 2005, 10:30 am 
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Darin, Sparkman,

Do you (or does anyone else) know if there's enough water in the Christina to run from Conklin or Chard to the Clearwater? It's in the Alberta Canoe Routes book, but a lot has changed sonce 1980 I'm sure...


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PostPosted: April 23rd, 2005, 8:32 pm 
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I myself have been wondering about the Christina.
I have heard is that if the water is low it is a long walk.
If the water is high then the canyon can be very challenging.
I'll keep inquiring.

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PostPosted: April 26th, 2005, 10:14 pm 
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Hi all,

Just came back from a trip on the Mackay River. Water levels were the highest they've been in the 10 years that I've been paddling the river. Had some great waves and a lot less rocks to avoid. Luckily the weather forecast was completely wrong and we had great weather as well.

As for the Christina, I've never paddled it, but have heard some info on it. I was debating going last year, but the water level at the mouth was way too high (100 m3/s or so). From what I've heard, not much has changed from what is in the Canoeing Alberta book, other than the access. You can drive to a variety of access points now instead of having to take the train. To get an idea of the water levels, you need to take a look at 3 readings from Alberta Environment website:
[url=http://www3.gov.ab.ca/env/water/ws/data/hydro/tables/ATH-RCHRICHA-WL.txt]
1. Christina River Near Chard[/url]
[url=http://www3.gov.ab.ca/env/water/ws/data/hydro/tables/ATH-RCLECHRI-WL.txt]
2. Clearwater River above Christina River[/url]
[url=http://www3.gov.ab.ca/env/water/ws/data/hydro/tables/ATH-RCLEDRAP-WL.txt]
3. Clearwater River at Draper[/url]

For the water levels on the upper portion, look at 1. If you want to know the water level at the mouth, subtract the flow rate at 2 from 3. These last two readings aren't currently available, but I expect they will be in a few days. From what I've been told, 40-70 m3/s at the mouth is a good level and you'll want to bring spray decks. You can run just the upper portion by starting on Christina Lake, on Jackfish Creek or at the Chard Bridge and getting off at the Highway 881 bridge near Janvier.

Cheers
Al

Edit: Ran the Christina from the Jackfish River to the Chard Bridge on May 15/2005 with D.R Zandee and a few others. Water levels were pretty low (26 m3/s). The Jackfish River is pretty narrow and shallow but fun with some small rapids. The first section of the Christina was relatively slow moving with the occasional small rapid/rock garden. The last 15km or so were nearly continuous rapids and rock gardens. Tons of fun :D. I wouldn't want to run it any lower than the level we did. At higher water levels (> 40 m3/s) I would recommend spray decks as there should be some good size waves in that lower section.


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PostPosted: June 12th, 2006, 10:46 am 
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Bump.
Bath Creek
Bow River Hwy 1 above Lake Louise to Canmore
Mosquito Creek-Hector lake onto the Bow R.
Red Deer R above Sundre
Crowsnest R.
Oldman R below Hwy 22

B.C:
Kootenay R from McLeod Meadows - Canal Flats
Vermillion R. Vermillion Crossing to below Hector Gorge.

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Besides the 10 Rivers in 10 Provinces in 10 Days
and a couple in BC..these are my Alberta rivers.

Red Deer.....Williams Creek to Coal Camp
North Saskatchewan....Columbia Icefields to Edmonton
Brazeau .....Small Boys Camp to Brazeau Reservoir
Cardinal...Cardinal River Road to Brazeau River
Athabasca....Athabasca Falls to Jasper Lake......Hinton to Athabasca
Wildhay...Group Camp to Highway 40
Miette...Highway 16 Bridge to Athabasca River
Whirlpool....S Bends to Athabasca River
Pembina...Lodgepole to Entwhistle

Lots of multiple trips here too.


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