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PostPosted: September 12th, 2017, 12:56 pm 
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Not to be to picky but there is a lot of info on our rivers out there, some a little harder than others.
Again happy ending.....
I hope others use it as a learning tool.
I will be at this spot in 2 weeks.

Before your watch this, just so you know I have been running and documenting the Agawa River since 1985, and have been posting trips and info both on forums and blog dedicated to the Agawa. A simple google search would have brought up the info.
Let alone LSPP has pretty good info on this river.
The fact they admit the have no WW experience is just a sign of the "go pro" mentality.
They put in after the first Class IV + and put in right above another C IV,
Where they went down they were about 200m from a fairly easy trail down to the pool at 1:27,
I imagine they got pretty beat up at the 2nd and 3rd rapid down from that pool Both very technical Class III, especially going into dusk/dark.

I would have been happy to supply info on the river to them.
If you plan to go to any river, there is a ton of info out there if you look.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnPUmq30t4s

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PostPosted: September 12th, 2017, 10:09 pm 
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Hoo Haw! I loved that video! Those dopes were in whitewater kayaks without spray skirts, they didn't have helmets, they had no whitewater experience, and they blundered into a Class IV gorge!


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PostPosted: September 13th, 2017, 3:37 am 
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Jeff, your comments on Youtube and their ongoing ignorance is gold, comedy gold I tell ya. It really deserves a look. Worth a look: https://youtu.be/dnPUmq30t4s

Fine work, fine work.
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PostPosted: September 13th, 2017, 6:47 am 
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MarkoMrko :oops:

And it is not like I would not have given them detailed info.... 8)

I will be there in a few weeks for my annual pilgrimage. :roll:

I re-flag the entrance to the trail that leads down to the campsite and the pond access every year, there has been a few years where the rail people cut back the bush, but I try to put the marker back far enough.
It will be interesting to see if the flags are still there.
And that said I guess the wood stash I leave by the camp site will still be intact and ready to go for my first dinner :thumbup:

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PostPosted: September 13th, 2017, 6:37 pm 
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I have written and erased several messages in response to this. Trying hard to remain positive. The video shows people completely unprepared for the trip. It seems sometimes we are much more focused on our audience than the trip itself.


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PostPosted: September 13th, 2017, 7:41 pm 
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MartinG wrote:
I have written and erased several messages in response to this. Trying hard to remain positive.

I laughed when I read this. I started to write 3 messages. Didn't post any of them.


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I have often heard that if have nothing good to say, then say nothing. I have nothing to say!!!

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PostPosted: September 13th, 2017, 8:07 pm 
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MartinG wrote

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I have written and erased several messages in response to this. Trying hard to remain positive. The video shows people completely unprepared for the trip. It seems sometimes we are much more focused on our audience than the trip itself.


:clap: :clap: :clap:

It is so easy to be prepared for trips now-a-days.
I must admit it got to my "goat" a little bit on how it was presented.
The comments to my comments on the you tube site confirmed what I thought.

Our love of paddling deserves much more respect than what was shown.

Every time there is an "incident" the whole paddle sport comes under scrutiny on what can make it safer.
And those that have been involved in access issues really get this.

I took my son just before he was 2 years old in 1989 down this stretch,
My bigger concern and that of may people that I paddled with at the time was not me running the rapids, but of possible critter interactions (bears where active that year)

I constantly urge beginners to get at least basic instruction and to practice these skills.
Many of us here have done this a long time and we have all made mistakes, but we all share our mistakes in hoping someone else learns from our experience.

So comments in the "positive" :-? :o 8) on what they did is good. :wink:

At least for the many others that wish to take up this amazing activity! :thumbup:

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PostPosted: September 13th, 2017, 8:11 pm 
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never mind---found it :doh:

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