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PostPosted: June 30th, 2019, 11:36 pm 
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Hey everyone, don't know much about this sort of thing, looking into getting a canoe and I figured I should ask here first.

I'm considering two options right now, and I understand that you can't really tell much about a boat until it's in the water, but wanted general advice and whatever information you can glean from photographs (how the shape will affect the handling, intended usage, condition...) Both are 16 feet, and I'd be paying round 800 for both.

The first is linked here: https://www.kijiji.ca/v-canoe-kayak-paddle-boat/barrie/16-ft-cedar-strip-canoe/1437313678. In one of the photos you can see some of the red canvas peeking out behind the cedar strips. Was wondering if this is a problem.

The second is linked here:https://www.kijiji.ca/v-canoe-kayak-paddle-boat/barrie/16-foot-peterborough-canoe/1443370821

What can you tell me about each, and which would you recommend? My heart is set upon wood, mostly sentimental but yeah.

Thank you in advance and hope to stick around these forums for awhile to learn from you folks.
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PostPosted: July 1st, 2019, 7:22 am 
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I don't see the red canvas behind the cedar but they both look like they are in pretty good shape. If they look as good in person they are probably worth the asking price and possibly a bit more.


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PostPosted: July 1st, 2019, 8:38 am 
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I'd lean towards the second boat based only on the pics. The first boat has new seats and a new thwart and fresh looking fasteners in the floor while the second looks more undisturbed. The first one has a flatter bottom and looks wider overall which is good for calm lakes but not as good for traveling or big wind and waves. Second boat might feel a little more unstable at first but the nice rounded sides mean it would be well behaved on rivers and lakes and different weather. Second boat also shows pics of the bottom and first doesn't which is suspicious because you need to see the bottom of any canoe you might buy. Couple of questions you might ask are "does it have any damage or need any repairs?" and "how much does it weigh?". Neither one will be light so you do want to think about weight. If you can go look at them just look them over closely inside and out and end to end...look for damage or broken ribs or repairs or whether the canvas will need to be replaced before you can use the boat. Common sense goes a long way even without experience and you don't need to tell anyone that you lack experience.


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PostPosted: July 1st, 2019, 9:32 am 
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Peterborough canoes are sought after.. It likely is an older canoe and new seats and thwarts are standard replacements. That said it looks like the frames were reused and laced with babiche. That is a bargain price.

The second also has hand caned seats. The canvas is showing through the scupper holes that help prevent gunwale rot. It should look like that It could be a Chestnut.

You need to feel both of them up.. Look for broken ribs cracked planks and rot in the stems. I am not seeing any in the pictures but in person is the only way to tell..

They could be heavy or they could have been reskinned with Dacron.. Canvas is more pliable and may show little cracks with age.. Not a big deal.


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