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PostPosted: May 4th, 2010, 3:53 pm 
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I'm just preparing a last few things for my 2 week canoeing trip and have set up a list with estimates for my shopping list. I've doubled up on some items and also added a few extras just in case. I would appreciate it if some of you have a look at my list and let me know if I've missed out anything (who knows, some might even find my list usefull...). I also need some advise on the amount of GORP to take along per day (and total) as well as the various makes for dehydrated veggies. I will have to purchase my dehydrated food as I won't have the facilities to dehydrate it. You could skip the day by day list and skip to my shopping list if that is quicker...

Here is my day by day list of food, snacks, pudding, drinks, etc. with shopping list at the botton:

Food list day by day:

Day1: Full English: Eggs, bacon, tomato, mushrooms, etc. (Just before starting trip)
Coffee
Salami sticks (x2)
GORP
Smarties/chocolate
Fresh fruit (Banana, pear, apple)
Cooldrink mix
Freshly caught battered fish with instant cous cous and fresh veggies (Pasta dish)
Tea
Instant Pudding mix

Day2: Minute Oats with syrup and berries (x2)
Coffee
Crispy bread with jam/honey/peanut butter
Instant soup
GORP
Cereal bar
Beef jerky (x2)
Cooldrink mix
Steak (frozen day before) with potato, tomato and fresh veggies
Tea
Hot Chocolate

Day 3: Muesli with powdered milk
Coffee
Salami sticks (x2)
Cheese sticks (x2)
Pitta Bread
GORP
Smarties/chocolate
Cooldrink mix
Fresh Caught battered fish with flavoured rice and fresh veggies
Tea
Cookies

Day 4: Pancakes with syrup and berries (fresh)
Coffee
Crispy bread with jam/honey/peanut butter
Instant soup
GORP
Cereal Bar
Beef jerky (x2)
Cooldrink mix
Burger and mash with dehydrated veggies
Tea
Hot chocolate

Day 5: Minute Oats syrup and berries(x2)
Coffee
Salami sticks (x2)
Cheese sticks (x2)
Pitta Bread
GORP
Smarties/chocolate
Cooldrink mix
Freshly caught battered fish with bannock (or Pasta dish)
Tea
Cookies

Day 6: Bannock with jam
Coffee
Crispy bread with jam/honey/peanut butter
Instant soup
GORP
Cereal Bar
Beef Jerky (x2)
Cooldrink mix
Freeze dried meal with veggies
Instant pudding mix

Day 7: Muesli with nuts and berries
Coffee
Salami sticks (x2)
Cheese sticks (x2)
Pitta Bread
GORP
Smarties/chocolate
Cooldrink mix
Freshly caught fish with mash and dehydrated veggies (or Pasta dish)
Tea
Cookies


Day 8: Minute Oats with syrup and berries(x2)
Coffee
Crispy bread with jam/honey/peanut butter
Instant soup
GORP
Cereal Bar
Beef Jerky (x2)
Cooldrink mix
Curry/chilli and rice and dehydrated veggies
Hot chocolate

Day 9: Muesli with powdered milk and berries
Coffee
Salami sticks (x2)
Cheese sticks (x2)
Pitta Bread
GORP
Smarties/chocolate
Cooldrink mix
Pasta dish
Tea
Cookies

Day 10: Pancakes with syrup and berries
Coffee
Crispy bread with jam/honey/peanut butter
Instant soup
GORP
Cereal Bar
Beef jerky (x2)
Cooldrink mix
Freshly caught battered fish with flavoured rice and dehydrated veggies (or pasta dish)
Tea
Instant pudding mix

Day 11: Minute Oats with syrup and berries (x2)
Coffee
Salami sticks (x2)
Cheese sticks (x2)
Pitta Bread
GORP
Smarties/chocolate
Cooldrink mix
Burger and mash and dehydrated veggies
Hot chocolate

Day 12: Muesli with powdered milk and berries
Crispy bread with jam/honey/peanut butter
Instant soup
GORP
Cereal Bar
Beef jerky (x2)
Cooldrink mix
Freshly caught battered fish with mash and dehydrated veggies (or Pasta dish)
Tea
Cookies

Day 13: Bannock with peanut butter/jam/syrup
Coffee
Salami sticks (x2)
Cheese sticks (x2)
Pitta Bread
Nuts/fruit mix
Smarties/chocolates
Cooldrink mix
Pasta with sauce
Tea
Instant pudding mix

Day 14: Minute Oats with syrup and berries (x2)
Coffee
Crispy bread with jam/honey/peanut butter
Instant soup
GORP
Cereal bar
Beef Jerky (x2)
Cooldrink mix
Freeze dried meal with veggies
Tea
Cookies

Total: Minute Oats: 20 Packets
Pancake mix: 2 Portions (Take more for fish fillets)
Bannock: 5 Portions
Muesli: 6 Portions
Coffee: Enough for 14 days (3 teaspoons per day x 14 = 42 teaspoons so say 50 teaspoons)
Tea: 20 Bags
Hot chocolate: 20 teaspoons
1x Bottle of brandy or whisky or sloe gin
Sugar: 5 teaspoons per day x 14 days = 70 teaspoons (take 100 just in case)
Powdered milk: 30 teaspoons
Crispy bread: 5 per day x 7 days= 35 pieces
Pitta Bread: 12
Cereal/Granola bars: 10
Instant soup: 20 packets
Salami/Pepperoni Sticks: 20
Cheese Sticks: 20
Hard cheddar: 1 block
Beef Jerky: 14 packets
GORP: Cashew nuts, pine nuts, peanuts, raisins, dried berries and dried fruit (need quantity…)
Chocolate bars/Smarties: 10
Cooldrink (Enough for 14 days…quantity needed)
Bacon: 2 packs smoked
Eggs: 6 (in egg safe box)
Fresh Veggies: (Broccoli (x1), potatoes (x10), tomatoes (x3), green beans, carrots (x10)
Fresh fruit: Apples (x5), Bananas (x6) oranges (x6)
Pasta dishes: 5 (+3 extra) i.e. macaroni and cheese
Steak: 1 frozen
Instant burger and mash (x2)
Instant curry and rice: 2 portions
Flavoured Rice: 2 packets
Instant flavoured cous cous: 2 portions
Instant mashed potatoes: 5 packets/portions
Freeze dried meals: 2
Dehydrated veggies: 6 Portions – assorted (types and brands needed)
Instant pudding mix: 5 packets
Cookies: 2 packets (4 x 6 days = 24)
Butter/ghee: 250ml
Olive Oil: 100ml
Syrup: 100ml
Jam: 100ml
Peanut Butter: 250ml
Lemon juice: 50ml
Salt: 50ml
Pepper: 50ml
Chilli flakes: 25ml
Garlic powder: 25ml

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 Post subject: Re: Day by day food list
PostPosted: May 4th, 2010, 4:04 pm 
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yowza thats a lot of food.

I hate banana chips as they are actually fried but bananas are going to turn to mush.

You can buy dehydrated fruit. Mangoes, papayas,dates, berries pineapple. They are much lighter and require no refrigeration. Also dehydrated apples. I have never seen dehydrated oranges.

Flour wraps seem to oulast pita bread. I have taken a package of 12 no refrigeration and not had to eat a green one on the last day.


You will be on the Churchill river right? I suggest taking along an extra two days of food. Two prepackaged f/d dinners just in case. Dont skimp on soup. A couple more packets oatmeal..or power bars. Just something for emergencies.


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 Post subject: Re: Day by day food list
PostPosted: May 4th, 2010, 4:14 pm 
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It sounds like you are a good planner and could benefit from reading the NOLS book. They have an interesting system for planning meals and I don't use their full system. But i have found that their ration amounts are right on.
http://www.amazon.com/Cookery-National- ... 524&sr=8-1


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 Post subject: Re: Day by day food list
PostPosted: May 4th, 2010, 4:57 pm 
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ditch the instant oatmeal and bring real stuff.....you have to boil the water anyway...so you clean one more pot?
advantage? WAAAAYYYY more slow carbs and actual protein.
add some dried fruit and boil it up a bit.
apricots, prunes, adds fiber and staying power
keeps you regular

there's alot of banking on fish there.......bring individual spam slices....that way you're motivated to catch fish and you got a backup in case you don't. pick up some egg powder..... nice egg wash if you have fish and protein in case you get skunked. plus, it helps to stick the spice to the spam.....it needs help
but your British right?
immune to bad food :P

dessert...... mr oker pudding cakes dead easy wit that egg powder...... seriously, desert really helps
the instant pudding works better if the milk is cold and it won't cut it man....cookies? those are evening snacks
you want substantial.
fruit flan or lazy date squares
real oats, ghee, brown suggar over boiled down dates or fruit
doubles off as breakfast in sidways stinging rain when you aren't getting up


make some protein bars
kashi cereal, melted marshmellow, chocolate chips, protein poweder and your fav dried fruit and nuts.
make like rice crispie squares.....or you can buy cliff bars for 1.60 a pop
bank on 3000 cals a day baseline. Get yourself some decent cheese and meats...not black diamond cheese packs, well their fine but 2 aren't enough, 10 year old cheddar, slice of sweet onion and a fine mustard.. the flat breads last longer than pitas.....
LRC is right on
most pitas are local shops with no preserve.....
I had Good east coast donair on the menu for day 6 lunch and the pita was all green by day 4. Lucky we had smart trip mates and backups
can of clams, carnation milk (or a tetra pack) little flour for thickening lots of garlic and a little parsley on whole wheat pasta..... it never goes bad and you can eat it anywhere you can pull out a stove

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 Post subject: Re: Day by day food list
PostPosted: May 4th, 2010, 7:12 pm 
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I think you have lots of good advice in the previous posts.
Specific to your GORP question, I take 125 gr of peanuts and 125 gr of Gorp per day, and that is all my snacks and lunch. So with your other food for lunch and snacks I would think 50-75 gr of GORP per day would be about right.

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 Post subject: Re: Day by day food list
PostPosted: May 4th, 2010, 7:36 pm 
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As long as you like this menu ,you'd be surprised how many people pack food they don't like, you'll do just fine. I would really encourage some extra grub though. I always carry at least 2 extra days on a trip like this, more, if its really isolated. We sat for 5 extra days at the mouth of the Ellice river in 2007 waiting for the weather to clear for our pick up.

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PostPosted: May 4th, 2010, 8:07 pm 
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Pack a dozen eggs--they won't spoil and it's good easy protein. You might pack them in the(non-instant!!) oatmeal if you have a rigid container(Tupperware?) for the oatmeal.

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 Post subject: Re: Day by day food list
PostPosted: May 5th, 2010, 2:53 pm 
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littleredcanoe wrote:
You can buy dehydrated fruit. Mangoes, papayas,dates, berries pineapple. They are much lighter and require no refrigeration. Also dehydrated apples. I have never seen dehydrated oranges.
Thanks litteredcanoe. It sound that dried fruit is a better (and lighter) option so I will definately keep that it mind.

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Flour wraps seem to oulast pita bread. I have taken a package of 12 no refrigeration and not had to eat a green one on the last day.
Good advise thanks! I will opt for the flour wraps instead.

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You will be on the Churchill river right? I suggest taking along an extra two days of food. Two prepackaged f/d dinners just in case. Dont skimp on soup. A couple more packets oatmeal..or power bars. Just something for emergencies.

Yes, it will be the Churchill for 2 weeks. I'm still debating on doing a trip that will take me past Missinipe after the first week or just doing a full on 2 week trip away from all towns and civilisation. That I will decide with Ric once I'm in La Ronge.

scottadventure wrote:
It sounds like you are a good planner and could benefit from reading the NOLS book. They have an interesting system for planning meals and I don't use their full system. But i have found that their ration amounts are right on.
http://www.amazon.com/Cookery-National- ... 524&sr=8-1
I will have a look at the book thanks but at this stage I need to cut down on weight as I got cut loose in a "Surplus Euro Army Camping Store" the other day and left about half of the store:D I know deep down that I will have to pack - eliminate - and repack many times still. I just couldn't resist that nice folding spade and the lightweight shower, etc...

@Gail R: I've been told....so I will definately ditch the instant oatmeal! Adding dried fruit is also a good idea which I will do, thanks for the tips. As for the prunes...I stay well clear of them...I once ate too many of them and they gossiped about me behind my back...

I've never used powdered egg before but I'm sure it weighs almost nothing so will add a few packs of them in as well. As for making my own bars, I don't think I won't have the facilities and time to make those but they do sound nice! So I will have to go for the Cliff Bars instead.


shearjoy wrote:
I take 125 gr of peanuts and 125 gr of Gorp per day, and that is all my snacks and lunch. So with your other food for lunch and snacks I would think 50-75 gr of GORP per day would be about right.
125gr of peanuts and 125 gr of GORP? I though peanuts is part of the GORP? Or do you have "neat" peanuts AND your GORP (with more peanuts in there...) My mixture is peanuts, cashew nuts, pine nuts, dried fruit and dried berries. So would that mean that say 250gr of GORP per day would be sufficient?

Doug Flint wrote:
I always carry at least 2 extra days on a trip like this, more, if its really isolated. We sat for 5 extra days at the mouth of the Ellice river in 2007 waiting for the weather to clear for our pick up.
Very good point thanks! I will make sure to take some extra food along. Especially lighweight foods (like pasta, instant mash, etc.) for just in case.

wotrock wrote:
Pack a dozen eggs--they won't spoil and it's good easy protein. You might pack them in the(non-instant!!) oatmeal if you have a rigid container(Tupperware?) for the oatmeal.
Gail R already mentioned about "real oats" and not the instant stuff so I will definately go for it. As for the eggs, I will try and get my hands on some egg-safe boxes and take a dozen along.

Thanks again for all the info from all the members. I will be fat when I return after my trip!

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 Post subject: Re: Day by day food list
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I pack both "neat" peanuts and GORP. I am too lasy to make something for lunch, I like having many small snacks so my stomach is never full when Imight be working hard (only on rugged portages) and I don't mind eating the same thing day after day. The "neat" peanuts are the best calories/gram I have found, and the fat in the peanut oil is otherwise missing from my tripping diet.

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PostPosted: May 6th, 2010, 11:58 pm 
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I guess I'm not a real tripper because I use quick oats to make up my oatmeal mixes.

What is "instant burger and mash"?

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PostPosted: May 7th, 2010, 6:38 am 
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Bryan,

Instant has a higher Glycemic index, depending on brand and flavor it can have alot of sugar and salt. If you drink plain water that's fine....if you drink juice crystals or gatorade you'd have to watch the sodium level for some.
It still has protein.
no worries

another nice option is to slice and apple throw it in some tinfoil, maple brown sugar instant oatmeal and a lump of butter wrap and place on your grill

my fav tripping treat is candied ginger
instant burger and mash?
I'm guessing a package of dried hamburger in gravy with instant mashed potatoes?

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I've been around here long enough to have read many times about the virtues of steel cut oats.

My quick oats has no salt. And it has as much sugar and other stuff as I choose to put into it.

I like candied ginger too, but nobody I trip with on a regular basis likes it. Same goes for wasabi peas.

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PostPosted: May 7th, 2010, 10:03 am 
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welll, we might as well blow Crave's post maddingly off in another direction but good :lol:

You know Bryan, I'm pretty cheap so the steel cut oats thing.....yea, it stopped at the pricetag :wink:

more that you ever wanted to know about oats:
PS dear Crave, if you have a favorite brand bring it, as you can see there are differences and it might not taste right.....you British usually think your way is right ....right :P

Oh, load and index
I'd touch on the bit about your scary farts but in a bit of a rush today......and I'm not in the mood to talk about strange men's underware :lol:
anywho:
Porridge made from rolled oats
386 Porridge (Uncle Toby's, Australia)17 42 250 9
387 Porridge, made from rolled oats cooked for 20 min 49±8 250 11
(Canada)
388 Porridge oats (Freedom Foods, Australia) 50±4 250 10
389 Traditional porridge oats 51±8 250 11
(Lowan Whole Foods, Australia)
390 Porridge, made from steel-cut oats, cooked in water 52±4 250 17
(USA)
391 Porridge (China) 55±2 250 13
392 Traditional Rolled Oats (Woolworths Limited, Australia) 57±5 250 11
393 Old-Fashioned Steel Cut Oats, President's Choice® 57±8 250 14
Blue MenuTM (Loblaw Brands Limited, Canada)
394 Porridge (Hubbards, New Zealand) 58±9 250 12
395 Porridge (Australia) 58±4 250 12
396 Porridge (Value, UK) 63±15 250 19
397 Porridge, organic (UK) 63±11 250 18
398 Porridge, Scottish (UK) 63±7 250 20
mean of thirteen studies 55±2 250 13
399 Multi grain instant oatmeal, Regular and Cinnamon 55±7 250 14
& Spice, President's Choice® Blue MenuTM
(Loblaw Brands Limited, Canada)
400 Multigrain porridge, containing rolled oats, wheat, 55±2 250 19
triticale, rye, barley and rice, cooked with water
(The Monster Muesli Company, Beecroft, Australia)
401 Wholemeal oat flour porridge (flour:water = 1:3), 74 50 (dry) 24
boiled 2.5 min (Sweden)
402 Oat porridge made from thick (1.0 mm) 55 250 15
dehulled oat flakes (Sweden)
403 Oat porridge made from 0.5-0.6 mm thick flakes, 76±7 250 19
cooked for 10min (Elovena; Raisio Group Ltd,
Raisio, Finland)
404 Oat porridge made from roasted thin (0.5 mm) 69 250 19
dehulled oat flakes (Sweden)
405 Oat porridge made from roasted thick (1.0 mm) 50 250 14
dehulled oat flakes (Sweden)
406 Oat porridge made from roasted and steamed thin 80 250 22
(0.5 mm) dehulled oat flakes (Sweden)
407 Oat porridge made from steamed thick (1.0 mm) 53 250 14
dehulled oat flakes (Sweden)
Instant Porridge
408 Instant porridge (China) 69±3 250 14
409 Instant oat porridge, cooked in microwave 82±10 250 20
with water (Uncle Toby's, Australia)
410 Instant oatmeal porridge, made from packet (China) 83±7 250 18
411 Instant oat cereal porridge prepared with water (UK) 83±10 250 30
mean of four studies


here's the refrence:
http://www.mendosa.com/gilists.htm


oh yea, forgot......I'd have to go back and check your list and subsequent comments but it's worth mentioning again.
Tripper's diets can sometimes be low on good fats. A nice combination oil like canola and olive will give you a great poly-unsaturated, good omega profile.
be aware though, in Canada 80% of the Canola is GMO......I don't perosnally care but some do.
you're packing nuts, good but sautrated..... on days where you use the prepackaged foods and not fish maybe have a handful of flax seed on your oatmeal

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PostPosted: May 7th, 2010, 9:34 pm 
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pawistik wrote:
I like candied ginger too, but nobody I trip with on a regular basis likes it. Same goes for wasabi peas.

Bryan, consider yourself lucky then. Almost everyone I go with loves the wasabi peas, and most like the candied ginger. I doesn't last as long when others are chomping on it. ;)

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Great thread...I'm getting lots of ideas for my 9 day trip coming up.

It sure is nice having a fresh apple each day for the first couple days of the trip...whevever I have enough room and as long as the portages aren't too long I usually try to add 4 fresh apples in my food barrel...lol...I've been known to bring along a canteloup or a couple of mangos too.

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