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PostPosted: February 9th, 2019, 9:41 am 
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https://avauntmagazine.com/what-a-100000-canoe-looks-like/

Spoiler Alert: It looks like a canoe....


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PostPosted: February 9th, 2019, 10:42 pm 
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If that figure is true, it's so impractical that it is my least favourite canoe of all time. Give me 50 Kevlar models instead.

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PostPosted: February 10th, 2019, 7:40 am 
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I wonder if the article had a typo when it mentioned that the canoes weighed 150 lbs and were “light”.


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PostPosted: February 10th, 2019, 7:55 pm 
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None of us is likely to purchase this first boat or one of the three others the young man is making. The canoe in the video is beautiful at least to my eyes. I don't know, either, why it would weigh 150 lbs. Obviously not a practical boat for rough-and-tumble tripping. What's interesting to me is the audacity of the craftsman. He's just beginning to learn his craft. He may have immense artistic talent. Someone may just buy his boat at $100,000 some day. I doubt that the builder is deeply concerned about making the sale. Undoubtedly, asking $100,000 attracts attention. Canoe building for him, according to what I could find on line, is a hobby, a new passion. His main business, from what I could gather, is wine production. His vineyard has produced wines that have purportedly sold for $250 and have been served at White House receptions. I would surmise that this young boatbuilder has learned to think big. Sometimes people like him succeed in attracting the attention of wealthy investors and hobbyists. The monetary value of something is only as high as the price that people are willing to pay. If a wealthy person wants an object that will outdo everyone else's more modest version of the same object, this might be the ticket. The builder risks ridicule, perhaps, but I doubt that that's a concern of this particular builder. His name, his reputation, his story, and his connections could be factors that help determine the canoe's value. Less practical, less inspired creations have sold for much more than this canoe. Didn't someone pay over $30,000 for one of John Lennon's teeth?


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PostPosted: February 11th, 2019, 8:38 am 
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I suspect the weight of the canoe has to do with the woods he is using:

Purple heart Average Dried Weight: 56 lbs/ft3 (905 kg/m3)
Black Walnut Average Dried Weight: 38 lbs/ft3 (610 kg/m3)
Zebrawood Average Dried Weight: 50 lbs/ft3 (805 kg/m3)
Mexican Ziricote Average Dried Weight: 50 lbs/ft3 (805 kg/m3)

Most of which are twice the dried weight of cedar:

Cedar Average Dried Weight: 22 lbs/ft3 (350 kg/m3)


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PostPosted: March 17th, 2019, 3:51 pm 
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I have a friend that makes custom paddles. Tropical hardwood laminate veneers, inlaid designs and artistic reliefs burned in with multiple lacquered coats. But you would never go tripping with one of these; you hang it on the wall. Just sayin...


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PostPosted: March 20th, 2019, 6:44 am 
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Not to be too harsh, but.....having built a few dozen strippers, my opinion is that canoe is fugly. It's got crude gunwales, oversized and ugly decks....it does however, match his paddling ability.


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PostPosted: March 20th, 2019, 12:51 pm 
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RHaslam wrote:
Not to be too harsh, but.....having built a few dozen strippers, my opinion is that canoe is fugly. It's got crude gunwales, oversized and ugly decks....it does however, match his paddling ability.


You're just jealous of those brass stems and growly from eating too much broccoli.

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PostPosted: March 20th, 2019, 3:17 pm 
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Those stems are not brass -- they're bronze!


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PostPosted: April 14th, 2019, 7:28 pm 
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I've followed Trent tangentially for a number of years.
What I would say is that's he's remarkably adept at marketing ... his Instagram feed has more than 100,000 followers and he's managed to get that boat featured in a number of high profile publications.
Those feeds indicate two finished boats, both of the rather clunky quality indicated in these articles. I'm not saying that there aren't more, just that if there are, and if they're of a higher quality, Trent hasn't shown or promoted them, which seems somewhat unlikely as weekly progress is well documented.
I think if you were to ask him, he'd say the $100,000 claim got away on him. At least I'd hope he would say that. It's one thing to have the budget to spend a ton of money on one-off custom cutwaters etc ... it's another to parlay that into a claim that a canoe is worth that kind of money when the craftsmanship of the basic hull, whilst adequate, doesn't transcend.
In saying this I feel kinda' conflicted; I'd love somebody to come along and truly justify what we do when we build canoes with that value, but that being the case this game is given away by a clumsy scarf (butt?) joint in a gunnel ... for the life of me I can't square the idea that somebody might make a claim like this, and yet not spring for full length gunnels.
That said, Trent has an interesting approach to materials and a willingness to hire luxury artisans to make his seats, etc etc which, with some time and a few more hulls under his belt, could well result in some special boats.

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