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Author:  Woodsy [ April 8th, 2019, 7:20 am ]
Post subject:  Dual Purpose Yellowstone

I just purchased a Bell Yellowstone Tandem to use as a tandem day tripper and a solo river touring boat. I know some paddlers add a kneeling thwart for this purpose, but I would like to paddle it solo from the bow seat as I've done in other boats. Has anyone else here done this, and how did it work out with the asymmetric rocker?

Author:  littleredcanoe [ April 8th, 2019, 8:32 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Dual Purpose Yellowstone

You give up a lot of control paddling from so far in back especially on a river.
And the bow thwart is not optional.. Remove it and the hull is floppy. that really nixes backwards on the bow seat.
The bow is more flared than the stern though I know that if you are at one end the new bow the old stern would ride higher.

I have a YT.

Even a third seat is better than backwards from the bow seat as it would be closer to the center of the boat.

Author:  Woodsy [ April 10th, 2019, 10:23 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Dual Purpose Yellowstone

My plan is to use it for camping on rivers, so my pack would be in the stern to balance the weight. I've done this in the past with an Appalachian. A little cumbersome, but it worked. A kneeling thwart is not an option as I switch back and forth from kneeling to sitting. and the boat is too wide for a center seat. I would also have to change the seat as the factory bow seat is tilted for kneeling in the bow. Maybe I can come up with a temporary thwart that would mount just forward of the bow seat. It would be a lot of screwing around switching back and forth between solo and tandem.

Author:  littleredcanoe [ April 10th, 2019, 2:39 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Dual Purpose Yellowstone

The Appalachian is a true WW boat The Yellowstone is not.. So beware .. You will NOT make as quick a turn as with the Appy. The YT is not only less rockered in the rear, it is also skegged. Turn it over and compare the bottom shapes of bow and stern.

When you say too wide for a center seat be aware that center seats are six to ten inches aft of the center bisect. You do need about 18 inches clearance for you to extract in case of capsize.

Author:  Woodsy [ April 12th, 2019, 4:38 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Dual Purpose Yellowstone

I think you"re opening yourself up for arguments on the whitewater ability between the two boats.
I realize there is a 1 inch difference bow to stern in rocker, which should be an advantage paddling from the bow seat. I'm not seeing the skeg you refer to. maybe it"s more pronounced on earlier models. This is a 2007. The Yellowstone is 33" wide at the center yoke and 32.5" wide 8" back, not much difference. It's 29.5 wide at the bow seat.

Author:  littleredcanoe [ April 13th, 2019, 8:08 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Dual Purpose Yellowstone

Woodsy did you check the hull shape by hand in the dark? Not to be crude but feeling up the hull is a better way to evaluate hull shape than eyeballing it.

Before committing to anything try paddling from the bow seat. Mine is a 2006.

The YT has quite a tendency to weathercock too but that is paddled in the normal position from a kneeling thwart..

You need to experiment.

Author:  Woodsy [ April 14th, 2019, 4:37 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Dual Purpose Yellowstone

What I did is I removed the thwart from behind the bow seat and used the thwart mounting holes for the bow seat rear mounting screws. I drilled new holes for the bow seat front mounting screws. I flipped the seat hangers so the rear of the bow seat tilts down. I ran a strap around the hull and pulled the gunnels in 1 inch measured at the rear of the bow seat. I then built a new thwart that mounts using the original bow seat front mounting holes. This moved the bow seat about 6 inches closer to center. Kneeling in it in the shop feels good. I’ll have to get it on the water and put it to the test. Thank you for your wisdom.

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