Hugh wrote:
It's always hard to envision what a system looks like.
On group trips I’ve been using a three bucket system.
One tall bucket is the throne that the toilet seat fits on. The Wag bag liner with poo powder goes in that bucket. A second gasket sealed bucket that nestles inside the throne holds the used Wag bags in transport. On group trips the third small bucket starts off holding the supply of unused Wag bags, toilet paper, hand sanitizer and bleach powder*. If/when the first used wag bag bucket gets full I begin filling the smaller 2nd bucket and transfer the remaining unused wag bags and TP and etc to a dry bag for the last of the trip.
Hugh wrote:
capacity, how many poople days for a bucket? anyone have a rule of thumb?
On a 5 person 11 day trip on the Green a couple of years ago we used 11 wag bags and ended up with a 5 gallon and a 2.5 gallon used wag bag buckets, both full. On a 2 person 22 day trip we ended up the same end result, largely because we were travelling on separate permits and used more than one wag bag per day when camped apart. Five or six individual deposits in a Wag bag is about as much as will easily fit inside the outer zip lock container bag.
Hugh wrote:
Disposal: at the end of a trip how does one correctly dispose of the wag bags?
Just throw them in the garbage?
I always ask Texs and they tell me just to put the used wag bags in their dumpster.
A word about Wag Bags. The fancy (pricey) REI wag bags come with a wee bit of toilet paper and a single use hand sanitizer pack. 12 bags for $34
http://www.rei.com/product/662978/clean ... kage-of-12WalMart carries similar bags without the toilet paper and sanitizer, $10 for six bags.
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Ozark-Trail-D ... s/14550463Both wag bags have a large plastic liner for the throne bucket with “poo powder” inside and a heavy duty double zip lock closure to hold the used liner bag once that day’s toilet is packed up. One wag bag per day was sufficient for 5 or 6 people to use, so unless you are travelling with a party of 10 plan on using one wag bag a day (maybe an extra or two just in case).
*One thing that I have found helpful to keep a little jar of bleach powder in the toiletries kit next to the throne and have each person sprinkle bleach power atop their deposit. That seems to help keep the odor at bay.
One possible space saving variation – the permit regulations allow for used wag bags to be stored in a sealed dry bag plainly marked “TOILET”. If you have a 20L dry bag you will never use again you can carry the used wag bags in that and just toss the whole thing in Texs dumpster, so you would need only the throne bucket and comfy seat.
I’ve done that as well, and the sacrificial 20L dry bag fits inside the empty throne bucket during transport as additional space savings.
Kim is right on about toting a full and heavy diamond plate Texs toilet up to some ledge site, a bucket with a bail handle is much lighter and easier.
Also, about Texs pick up. One Green River trips we have camped a couple of miles above the confluence, usually at Water/Shot Canyon, packed up in the morning and been on the Colorado waiting for pick up (with the canoes cleaned and gear ready) well before Texs arrived.
The ledge site just above Water/Shot is very nice and has room for a half dozen tents. There is another ledge site about a mile downstream on river right as well.
If you end up camping for the last night on the Colorado there is a huge landing rock on river right about a mile past the confluence, Scorpion Rock, with has some nice cotton woody tent sites (and old cowboy glyphs as well). Or Spanish Bottom, or anywhere else that offers Texs their needed 3’ (or 5’, depending) of water depth a canoe length from shore.
The closer to the confluence you wait for pick up the later you will be fetched by the jet boat; the jet boat goes all the way down first and picks up en route back, so if you are bringing your own boats they will be stacked on top and first off the trailer when you get back to Moab.